On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:15:09 -0500 ravenlock <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On 3/10/13 4:43 AM, Daniel Juyung Seo wrote:
> > Hello all, GSoC submission will start in 8 days and will be
> > finished in 19 days.
> > 
> > https://www.google.com/calendar/render?eid=cHVmaXBodWhnMWIzc2h0OWNndnRlYjkzOGsgZ3N1bW1lcm9mY29kZUBt&ctz=America/Los_Angeles&sf=true&output=xml
> > https://www.google.com/calendar/render?eid=b2w4bDFsaWNwN2p2ZjNydnViMHRpZTA4ZnMgZ3N1bW1lcm9mY29kZUBt&ctz=America/Los_Angeles&pli=1&sf=true&output=xml
> > 
> > Is there any volunteer that can lead EFL/E GSoC project?
> 
> While it may all start with "someone to lead".  It requires a bit more
> than just that.  There must be a pair of admins (primary and backup).
> There must be a willing and able pool of mentors (in duplicate as
> well, primary and backup).  Those mentors must be willing and capable
> of mentoring the pool of ideas which should be reasonably applicable
> to "the project" (aka Enlightenment).  This pool of ideas
> historically is a tad elusive and difficult to agree upon (the value
> and applicability of individual ideas).
> 
> Why do I mention the above?  Well, finding someone to admin is likely
> the easy part.  Rounding up enough devs and enough quality ideas, such
> that E appears committed, determined to be involved, and "relevant" to
> today's *nix world is the trick.
> 
> So, while admin'ing is a lot of work, and frankly time consuming and
> tough in "hard times" (though I consider it a very worthwhile
> endeavor) .... one might argue "admins" are a dime a dozen.  An admin
> without mentors is of little value.
> 
> I would ask...
> By show of hands... are there volunteers to mentor?  And do you have
> ideas in hand?
> 
> Sifting through this thread I see:
>   Daniel Juyung Seo
>   Tom Hacohen
>   Cedric BAIL
>   David Seikel
> 
> Are you all still willing and able?  Are there others in the wings?

I was only willing to mentor on one specific thing, and that specific
thing is already being taken care of.  So that's a "no" from me.

> (NB:  "Mentors" must be formally ordained E committers, preferably
> "active" in recent past or still very up to date on all things "E", as
> you will be point man for answering all the questions and guiding your
> student.)
> 
> > If there is no one, this mail will become the last notification
> > mail. Thank.
> > 
> > Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Daniel Juyung Seo
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Yes I will join as a mentor but I hope someone who has GSoC
> >> experience can help/lead GSoC applications and writing docs in
> >> English. Thanks.
> >>
> >> Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Cedric BAIL <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:49 PM, ravenlock
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> On 2/13/13 6:18 AM, Tom Hacohen wrote:
> >>>>> On 13/02/13 01:26, Cedric BAIL wrote:
> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:37 AM, David Seikel
> >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Wed, 13 Feb 2013 00:03:03 +0900 Daniel Juyung Seo
> >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hello, GSoC(Google Summer of Code) 2013 has been announced.
> >>>>>>>> [1] Any body is willing to join this year's GSoC?
> >>>>>>>> I heard we had a successful GSoC before but I haven't
> >>>>>>>> experienced GSoC
> >>>>>>>> since I joined E/EFL.
> >>>>>>>> I hope we will be accepted by GSoC this year.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I know I had promised to mentor if "port to Android" was a
> >>>>>>> GSoC project, but Andreas seems to be on top of that port, so
> >>>>>>> don't think that needs to be done.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I could help on mentoring to. I don't know if anyone will be
> >>>>>> motivated to do the administrative part again with google
> >>>>>> process as we failed for the past year...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm also willing to mentor if anyone needs me.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm always willing.  I have more free cycles this year than
> >>>> years past. I saw the announcement come across the wire.  I
> >>>> poked at a dev or two quietly.  If there is interest, it is
> >>>> always worth a try.
> >>>>
> >>>> In the years we got in, I think it was generally a good
> >>>> experience for all involved.  In the years past in which we did
> >>>> not get in, I believe there were a combination of reasons for
> >>>> not making it.  Some of those reasons no longer exist... while
> >>>> some I suspect do.  But that shouldn't keep us from trying, and
> >>>> certainly is not an insurmountable task.
> >>>>
> >>>> In general, I think a concerted effort by a group of genuinely
> >>>> motivated and organized people with a set of intriguing ideas...
> >>>> can get in.
> >>>
> >>> Ok, let's try it then ! I am going to start thinking on what is
> >>> worth it. Now that we have E17 out, that should help, I hope !
> >>> --
> >>> Cedric BAIL
> >>>
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