On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:56:53 +0000 Michael Blumenkrantz <[email protected]> said:
read your description. seriously. NOWHERE does it indicate HOW you are selecting. let me post it here for you in case you didnt read it. i DID: "I've brought this issue up a couple times, but the Lord & Master of Text has been dismissive in the past about it so I am reopening it for real discussion. Currently, the word selection code does not include spaces surrounding words. What do I mean by this? Consider the text "the text ". If the text cursor is positioned at the start, selecting/deleting the next word SHOULD include the space between the words. If the text cursor is positioned at the end of this, selecting/deleting the previous word SHOULD include the trailing space. This would be consistent with every other toolkit and desktop. EFL entries do not. Instead, because of an arbitrary decision, we are the only environment where spaces are never included in words. This needs to be fixed immediately as EFL gains adoption on the desktop, since it's very noticeable when you switch from a GTK app to an EFL app and expect your text editing to function the same." of the content, half of it is complaints, not details, of the half that is it is "selecting/deleting the next word"... i double click to do that. you do not explain HOW to select. do you mean to select using a specific mechanism? i can hit ctrl+right arrow to begin or extend a selection char by char, if i hit it enough times i can select the word and the space. do you mean this? i can easily get the space selected. do you mean ctrl+shift+right arrow? of the comments someone asked if you mean by ctrl+arrow selection/jumping of the cursor? you chose never to answer that with an affirmative or negative. i spent my time going thru the ticket AND comments before i did videos. i had no idea what u really meant. if you wish to make snide remarks like "but the Lord & Master of Text has been dismissive in the past", then expect push back and people going "wtf? works for me". after i looked into it and found it was working just fine for me, you indicated you mean it's by specific key controls, and you should put that in your ticket. > My description in the trac ticket was quite exhaustive; in the time that > you spent making videos, you could have clicked through for more > information. > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Carsten Haitzler > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 09:57:08 +0000 Michael Blumenkrantz > > <[email protected]> said: > > > > you didn't describe the issue hard enough. you didn't indicate HOW u are > > selecting a word - ever. i double clicked as that is the most common way i > > know. so you mean to describe the bug better by indicating the WAYS in > > which u > > select a word? > > > > and as per videos i point to - i tried hard enough to bother making a > > video of > > 2 toolkits that refutes your claim. if you are going to want anything other > > than dismissal of what you are talking about... describe it in detail. :) > > > > > I guess you didn't test hard enough then, because the issue absolutely > > > exists. Type two words in a gtk/qt app, press ctrl+backspace twice, both > > > words deleted. Try the same in anything written with edje entry and > > you've > > > still got one of the words. > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected] > > >wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:24:26 +0000 Michael Blumenkrantz > > > > <[email protected]> said: > > > > > > > > seriously. double click a word in a gtk text entry now... the space is > > NOT > > > > selected. just the word. hit backspace to delete the word selected and > > > > just the > > > > selected word is deleted and u end up with the "2 spaces" if there was > > a > > > > space > > > > before and after the word. i am doing it RIGHT now in gedit, sylpheed > > and > > > > thunderbird and it does EXACTLY this. now i test this in qt > > (kcachegrind) > > > > and > > > > PRESTO... the EXACT same thing. double click a word to select it and > > JUST > > > > the > > > > word is selected, NOT the trailing space. hit del and JUST the word is > > > > deleted. > > > > > > > > http://www.enlightenment.org/~raster/word-sel-del-gtk.ogv > > > > http://www.enlightenment.org/~raster/word-sel-del-qt.ogv > > > > > > > > i don't know what you have been smoking but there is proof. edje entry > > > > behaviour is 100% consistent with gtk and qt (i cant speak for windows, > > > > java, > > > > macos etc.) in the above regard. > > > > > > > > > I'd like to call everyone's attention to > > > > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/2206 > > > > > > > > > > I (and a number of others) have been complaining very vocally about > > this > > > > > issue for over a year, and it has yet to be taken seriously or fixed. > > > > This > > > > > is a significant problem for anyone wanting to use EFL text input, > > and it > > > > > absolutely needs to be fixed before the 1.8 release. > > > > > > > > > > For those who can't access the trac ticket, this is regarding the > > > > arbitrary > > > > > way that word selection works in edje entry, and how it functions > > > > > contrarily to text input in every other toolkit and OS that I've > > tested. > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > Own the Future-Intel® Level Up Game Demo Contest 2013 > > > > > Rise to greatness in Intel's independent game demo contest. > > > > > Compete for recognition, cash, and the chance to get your game > > > > > on Steam. $5K grand prize plus 10 genre and skill prizes. > > > > > Submit your demo by 6/6/13. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel_levelupd2d > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > > -------------- > > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Own the Future-Intel® Level Up Game Demo Contest 2013 > > > Rise to greatness in Intel's independent game demo contest. > > > Compete for recognition, cash, and the chance to get your game > > > on Steam. $5K grand prize plus 10 genre and skill prizes. > > > Submit your demo by 6/6/13. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel_levelupd2d > > > _______________________________________________ > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [email protected] > > > > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Own the Future-Intel® Level Up Game Demo Contest 2013 Rise to greatness in Intel's independent game demo contest. 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