On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 01:18:50 +0000 Iván Briano <[email protected]> said:

> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:18 AM, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 20:57:33 -0300 Lucas De Marchi
> > <[email protected]> said:
> >
> >> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:24:08 -0300 Lucas De Marchi
> >> > <[email protected]> said:
> >> >
> >> >> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM,  <[email protected]>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > Tom Hacohen <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 16/04/13 16:01, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Tom Hacohen
> >> >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> On 16/04/13 15:26, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Tom Hacohen
> >> >> >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> Hey guys,
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> How are you? I just noticed that 'edbus' installs headers under:
> >> >> >>>>>> prefix/include/edbus-1
> >> >> >>>>>> while using the
> >> >> >>>>>> pkgconfig name 'edbus2'
> >> >> >>>>>> the library name 'libedbus2'
> >> >> >>>>>> and an header called 'EDbus.h'.
> >> >> >>>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>> Luckily for us, it's not too late to fix it. Only question, what
> >> >> >>>>>> should
> >> >> >>>>>> we
> >> >> >>>>>> change it to? Everywhere with the 2 or everywhere without the 2?
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> E_DBus installed edbus.pc and libedbus.so - that's why we needed
> >> >> >>>>> to put a 2 in the name.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> However the name is edbus and has no relations with the previous
> >> >> >>>>> library. It's not a new version, it's a complete different one. So
> >> >> >>>>> appending a "2" in headers and include path is the wrong thing to
> >> >> >>>>> do.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> If ebus was available I would vote for that. It seems we are short
> >> >> >>>>> in options for names.
> >> >> >>>>>
> >> >> >>>>> Lucas De Marchi
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> I understand putting the 2 was needed, but if we add it once, we
> >> >> >>>> should add
> >> >> >>>> it everywhere. It's annoyingly inconsistent.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> Why did you choose 2 then? Why not 4? Or A? You chose 2 because
> >> >> >>>> it's the
> >> >> >>>> best explanation, as it is, although mostly unrelated, e_dbus v2.
> >> >> >>>> And if
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> because it was not me is the best explanation.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>> that's good enough there, it's good enough everywhere.
> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >>>> In conclusion, I see no harm in using edbus2 all around the place.
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> it's not good enough there, even less everywhere.  The visible part
> >> >> >>> to the developer is the include path and the namespace. And these
> >> >> >>> should reflect the library name. If anything change everything to
> >> >> >>> something else, but don't put the 2 there.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Let's wait to see what others think, as we disagree about the source
> >> >> >> of the problem, and that's: is this a major inconsistency that
> >> >> >> should be solved.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Anyhow, regarding different names: I suggest edbus2.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Tom.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >
> >> >> > I agree with whatever demarchi says.
> >> >>
> >> >> I disagree.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> oh, wait...
> >> >>
> >> >> Lucas De Marchi
> >> >
> >> > :-P ... i have to say though - consistency is good. not just for devs,
> >> > but packagers and anyone looking at their filesystem. if things are
> >> > named in a consistent pattern it is easy to know what belongs where
> >> > without needing package databases or other forensics tools.
> >>
> >> Sure it's good, no doubt. Just that renaming to edbus2 for the sake of
> >> consistency is even worse, not because of the rename, but because of
> >> the name chosen.
> >>
> >> ebus? anyone?
> >>
> >> Lucas De Marchi
> >
> > whatever the name chosen is, if .pc file, header include dir, header names,
> > and library name are all consistent in terms of pattern/convention then we
> > are good.:)
> >
> >
> 
> Platypus.h
> platypus.pc
> libplatypus.so

i'm all for this. nice and consistent, but your choice of animal is to be
desired. i vote for the 3 toed sloth. Sloth.h sloth.pc libsloth.so

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