2013/4/17 Cedric BAIL <[email protected]>

> Cedric Bail
> On Apr 17, 2013 2:22 AM, "Tom Hacohen" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On 17/04/13 02:28, Jérôme Pinot wrote:
> > > On 04/17/13 10:11, David Seikel wrote:
> > >> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 20:57:33 -0300 Lucas De Marchi
> > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Carsten Haitzler
> > >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:24:08 -0300 Lucas De Marchi
> > >>>> <[email protected]> said:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM,  <[email protected]>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>> Tom Hacohen <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> On 16/04/13 16:01, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Tom Hacohen
> > >>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On 16/04/13 15:26, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Tom Hacohen
> > >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Hey guys,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> How are you? I just noticed that 'edbus' installs headers
> > >>>>>>>>>>> under: prefix/include/edbus-1
> > >>>>>>>>>>> while using the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> pkgconfig name 'edbus2'
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the library name 'libedbus2'
> > >>>>>>>>>>> and an header called 'EDbus.h'.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Luckily for us, it's not too late to fix it. Only question,
> > >>>>>>>>>>> what should
> > >>>>>>>>>>> we
> > >>>>>>>>>>> change it to? Everywhere with the 2 or everywhere without
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the 2?
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> E_DBus installed edbus.pc and libedbus.so - that's why we
> > >>>>>>>>>> needed to put a 2 in the name.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> However the name is edbus and has no relations with the
> > >>>>>>>>>> previous library. It's not a new version, it's a complete
> > >>>>>>>>>> different one. So appending a "2" in headers and include
> > >>>>>>>>>> path is the wrong thing to do.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> If ebus was available I would vote for that. It seems we are
> > >>>>>>>>>> short  in options for names.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Lucas De Marchi
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> I understand putting the 2 was needed, but if we add it once,
> > >>>>>>>>> we should add
> > >>>>>>>>> it everywhere. It's annoyingly inconsistent.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Why did you choose 2 then? Why not 4? Or A? You chose 2
> > >>>>>>>>> because it's the
> > >>>>>>>>> best explanation, as it is, although mostly unrelated, e_dbus
> > >>>>>>>>> v2. And if
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> because it was not me is the best explanation.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> that's good enough there, it's good enough everywhere.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> In conclusion, I see no harm in using edbus2 all around the
> > >>>>>>>>> place.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> it's not good enough there, even less everywhere.  The visible
> > >>>>>>>> part to the developer is the include path and the namespace.
> > >>>>>>>> And these should reflect the library name. If anything change
> > >>>>>>>> everything to something else, but don't put the 2 there.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Let's wait to see what others think, as we disagree about the
> > >>>>>>> source of the problem, and that's: is this a major
> > >>>>>>> inconsistency that should be solved.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Anyhow, regarding different names: I suggest edbus2.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>> Tom.
> > >>>>>>>
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> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I agree with whatever demarchi says.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I disagree.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> oh, wait...
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Lucas De Marchi
> > >>>>
> > >>>> :-P ... i have to say though - consistency is good. not just for
> > >>>> devs, but packagers and anyone looking at their filesystem. if
> > >>>> things are named in a consistent pattern it is easy to know what
> > >>>> belongs where without needing package databases or other forensics
> > >>>> tools.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sure it's good, no doubt. Just that renaming to edbus2 for the sake
> of
> > >>> consistency is even worse, not because of the rename, but because of
> > >>> the name chosen.
> > >>>
> > >>> ebus? anyone?
> > >>
> > >> The name of the ebus goes 'round and 'round.
> > >
> > > As we all like E, I suggest edeebus
> >
> > +1 from me.
>
> For the fun I will give a +1 to edeebus to !
>

I vote for the funny edeebus too :)
davemds



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