On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 00:03:09 -0500 Doug Newgard <[email protected]> said:

> ----------------------------------------
> > Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 13:41:31 +0900
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > CC: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment pngs with embedded iCC profiles
> >
> > On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 23:33:19 -0500 Doug Newgard <[email protected]>
> > said:
> >
> >>> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 13:20:33 +0900
> >>> From: [email protected]
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> CC: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment pngs with embedded iCC profiles
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 14:12:44 +1000 David Seikel <[email protected]> said:
> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 22:39:19 -0500 Doug Newgard <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> ----------------------------------------
> >>>>>> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:44:15 +0900
> >>>>>> From: [email protected]
> >>>>>> To: [email protected]
> >>>>>> CC: [email protected]
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [E-devel] Enlightenment pngs with embedded iCC profiles
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:15:47 -0500 Doug Newgard
> >>>>>> <[email protected]> said:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm sure some of you have seen the warnings generated by libpng
> >>>>>>> 1.6: "known incorrect sRGB profile". Now, this is no big deal,
> >>>>>>> it's just a warning, but I still wanted to look into it further.
> >>>>>>> By my count, there are 800 png files in Enlightenment, of which
> >>>>>>> only 6 have embedded iCC profiles, all from HP. The rest are sRGB
> >>>>>>> colorspace, but do not include a profile. There are some good
> >>>>>>> arguments for this (http://imageoptim.com/color-profiles.html
> >>>>>>> http://www.gballard.net/psd/save_for_web_embed_ICC_profile.html)
> >>>>>>> and since this seems to be the default, I've attached the 6 files
> >>>>>>> with the profiles stripped out. As you can see, it doesn't change
> >>>>>>> the image or the colorspace, it just leaves the calibration up to
> >>>>>>> the end user's system.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I haven't been able to find just what's wrong with the HP iCC
> >>>>>>> profile being used that the authors of libpng don't like, but it
> >>>>>>> makes sense to standardize the way profiles are handled anyway.
> >>>>>>> And it has the nice side effect of silencing warnings, even if the
> >>>>>>> Debian/Ubuntu users aren't likely to see them for a couple of
> >>>>>>> years.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I can just change the iCC profile instead if you would prefer.
> >>>>>>> I've seen multiple people recommend the Argyll sRGB profile, which
> >>>>>>> is still "sRGB IEC61966-2.1" and is public domain.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Elementary has a lot more pngs with the HP profile, so once I know
> >>>>>>> for sure what people would prefer, I'll fix them, too.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Doug
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> what we need to know is what is adding the hp profile causing the
> >>>>>> warinig. what tool does it? is it gimp? photoshop? imagemagick?
> >>>>>> otherwise we go creating warnings again if that tool is used...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That's a good question. On my machine, GIMP refuses to even export
> >>>>> the image with the HP profile, so I doubt that's it unless that's
> >>>>> because of libpng 1.6. I do know that the HP profile is not included
> >>>>> with GIMP, only their built-in profile which is used for display, it
> >>>>> does not get embedded into images. I did find some information about
> >>>>> the HP profile in relation to Photoshop, but others said that it
> >>>>> didn't come with Photoshop and suggested it may have been included
> >>>>> with printer/scanner software. I did find that Photoshop does not
> >>>>> embed a profile by default when exporting PNGs. As far as I can tell,
> >>>>> Imagemagick doesn't include any iCC profiles, so that can't be it,
> >>>>> either. On my system, I have profiles from Colord, Argyll, Oyranos,
> >>>>> and Yamma, and none of them include the problem profile. Where this
> >>>>> profile came from is sitll a bit of a mystery to me.
> >>>>
> >>>> Look at the SVN / git history for the images with that HP profile.
> >>>> That at least will tell you WHO added them. Than ask that person
> >>>> what they used to make them / last used to massage them / where they got
> >>>> them from.
> >>>
> >>> given the images... one i know i created years ago with gimp. others i
> >>> think came from manowarrior (he did his work with inskacpe and/or
> >>> photoshop and illustrator?)
> >>
> >> Yep, git blame on the icons, at least, gives me d6dab499 and f72b2067. The
> >> former says icons from manowarrior, the second is optimizing the images.
> >> The iCC profile seems to be in the originals from manowarrior. Loading
> >> them up in a hex editor, I see a string that says "iCCPPhotoshop ICC
> >> profile", so this does seem to be originally from Photoshop. I wonder if
> >> they're still using it or if it was only in an older version?
> >
> > so... photoshop blame! :)
> 
> So it would seem. Elementary images attached, 51 of 591 total. I'm also
> seeing a few in editje, eve, python-efl (taken from elm, I believe), and
> rage, but this should take care of the bulk of it.

done man. done. :)                        

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