On Thursday 28 November 2013  14:30, Tom Hacohen wrote :
> On 28/11/13 11:57, Jérémy Zurcher wrote:
> > On Thursday 28 November 2013  11:13, Tom Hacohen wrote :
> >> On 28/11/13 11:08, Jérémy Zurcher wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I wanted to do some tests before rising my voice,
> >>> here they are http://cgit.asynk.ch/eo_tokenizer/
> >>>
> >>> this is POC, http://www.complang.org/ragel/ based tokenizer which does not
> >>> all but most of the job. First time I play with ragel, had much fun!!
> >>>
> >>> about the .eo file syntax:
> >>> YAML is easier than JSON to write and read, but imho both are more
> >>> machine than human oriented.
> >>> I think we should to stick to C syntax it should ease everybody's pain
> >>> and hopefully avoid wrong formatting, editor annoyance...
> >>
> >> The problem with c syntax, is that we'll never be "there". That is,
> >> we'll be stuck in the land of similar enough to call it C, but
> >> incomplete enough to be annoying and confusing.
> >>
> >> Just like vim mode is on most editors.
> >
> > did you looked at my example file ?
> > vim just like writting it and it does what we want.
> >
> >>
> >> We need very specific things that the C syntax doesn't support (that's
> >> why we need .eo files in the first place), so instead of hacking around
> >> something that wasn't designed for it. Why not make something new that
> >> is simple, easy to learn (i.e immediate transition from c) and designed
> >> for the task?
> >
> > because it is useless,
> > we just need to understand a few keywords inherits, properties, methods, 
> > params, set, get
> > then tokenize a very minimal C like construct : definition { ... };
> >
> > but you can call it new if you want ;)
> 
> While the hacks to make editors work with the syntax look nice, they're 
> not perfect, and that's related to my previous point about vim: it works 
> nice for your example, maybe for a few other things, but then we'll hit 
> a wall, and that will be really annoying.
> 
> The syntax does look fine though, except for the = mark after the 
> "return". Why not just "return Eina_Bool" ?
> Also, if we are already ; delimited, why not:
> legacy = evas_object_visible_get; ?
you are right, both fixed now, took just a few seconds.
> 
> Anyhow, while your suggestions will trick simple syntax highlighters, 
> it'll drive my vim+clang mad. Same goes for any other "advanced" 
> editors. Unless of course you don't set it to C, and then you lose the 
> advantages.
I'm sure you can disable vim clang plugin (which I will test now) on .eo
> 
> I'm actually kinda fine with this syntax (after the few improvements).
> 
> --
> Tom.
> 
> 
> 
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