On 02/01/14 14:35, Mike Blumenkrantz wrote:
> If you hate these kinds of replies then you could easily prevent them by
> proposing a possible plan of action for the community to take instead of
> a mail which sounds like "someone else take care of my idea"

Why would I do any work, before anyone even shows any interest? I 
suggested the target goal, if people are willing to have 2 themes we 
maintain (i.e both are shipped by default), a "plan" (wow, you are such 
a bureaucrat) can be made.

Plan of action:
1. Agree it's wanted, needed and we are willing to have the extra 
overhead of maintaining two themes.
2. Actually do it.

>
> I think the most interesting part of your mail is that you immediately
> deflect from the possibility of working on this idea yourself, which
> seems to prove my point.

I think the most part of your email is that you try to start stupid 
arguments based on bullshit made up comments you say.
I started by arguing the general case, that emails like this should not 
need to be backed by people who are willing to do all of the work alone, 
continued by describing a case in which I was willing (not saying one 
way or the other). The only place where I ever said anything that looks 
like I'm not willing to do all the work on my own (haven't decided if I 
am or not yet) is the second paragraph where I was vague and said "we'll 
figure things out".



> For the record I think this is a worthwhile idea. Some community members
> have already begun making utilities to do this, so perhaps we should
> incorporate this work.

Which utilities are you referring to specifically? Could help if we do 
decide to go with it.

--
Tom.

>
> Tom Hacohen <tom.haco...@samsung.com> wrote:
>
>     I hate comments like that, they are wrong at their core.
>     I'm well aware, this takes a lot of effort to fix it, like many other
>     bugs/issues we have. It doesn't mean just one guy (the one who raised
>     the concern) should do all the work on his own, or even coordinate the
>     efforts. Furthermore, even if I was willing, and was intending on doing
>     that, the nature of the change would require this email. Deciding we
>     officially maintain two themes is a big thing.
>
>     I've raised the flag, if people agree/want to do it, we'll figure things
>     out.
>
>     Anyway, it shouldn't be *too* much work, as it'll just be generating two
>     themes from the same edc and having macros for colours, and two sets of
>     images.
>
>     --
>     Tom.
>
>     On 02/01/14 13:55, Michael Blumenkrantz wrote:
>
>         I assume you're volunteering to make and maintain the light one
>         then?
>
>         On Thu, 02 Jan 2014 10:54:30 +0000
>         Tom Hacohen <tom.haco...@samsung.com> wrote:
>
>             It's really bad that applications need to be adjusted to be
>             compatible
>             with elm 1.8. I think we should find a way to have a
>             dark/light concept.
>             So first of all, we'll ship two themes by default, and that
>             second of
>             all, people will be able to provide two themes to their
>             applications,
>             and have the correct one loaded according to system theme's
>             darkness.
>
>             Thoughts?
>
>             --
>             Tom.
>
>             On 02/01/14 03:49, Jérôme Pinot wrote:
>
>                 Hi,
>
>                 I updated ePeriodique, the EFL periodic table, to be
>                 compatible with the
>                 new elementary 1.8 theme.
>
>                 Website (with screenshots):
>                 http://eperiodique.sourceforge.net/
>                 Direct download:
>                 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/eperiodique/files/0.5/eperiodique-0.5.tar.bz2/download
>
>                 Blog note about the migration 1.7->1.8 :
>                 http://ngc891.blogdns.net/?p=350
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



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