Thanks simon, Is your company in America ? Thanks.
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 11:40 PM, Simon <si...@simotek.net> wrote: > On 01/25/2014 09:35 AM, Andrew F wrote: > > I have to agree with David's post. > > We chose you over other options because of the BSD license. It gave us > > legal protections we could no get with LGPL. > > > > BSD Allows start ups to raise funds. Why? because investors are not going > > to fund a company that can't protects its code. > > Remember there is no legal ambiguity with the BSD license and plenty with > > the LGPL. And Legal ambiguity is the kiss of death for investors. > > > > With success, funds can be donated back to the base project when using a > > BSD license. > > > > To be honest... I think you cut your nuts off. You could have focused > on > > marketing your > > professional consulting services or development services and raised funds > > that way. > > You could also have modified the licensee or added a commercial license. > > QT seems to be doing very well. > > You could have also been genuine and simply asked for financial > > assistance. You could have had fund raisers, on line or in person. > > BSD unix makes it annual budget with on-line fund raising. > > > > And when I say give back after the fact, its not lip service. Not only > did > > we intend to give back to e17/e18/3x but > > we have budgeted for it. In fact we have added LINE ITEMS on our budget > to > > cover quarterly donations for open source code that we use. > > > > And it makes scene for us. Open source developers develop the base > product > > and we put a functional and good looking wrapper on it for end > > users. Open source teams do what they do well, which is develop core > > technologies, and we do what we do well, sell and market. > > ( and build functional and good looking wrappers) > > > > So, what do we do now? Find a new desktop? But we have been working > on > > e17 /e18 > > for a while.... Our second choice was QT as they have a commercial > > license. > You can use Qt to write applications without a commercial license, they > have a extension to there lGPL license that clarify's that using enums > / function calls / whatever from public header files is considered > general use and does not make a application written with those libraries > a derivative work. In short you don't need a commercial license to write > applications that use Qt (According to my company's legal team). I have > seen other toolkits that clarify the apparent ambiguity in the lGPL by > making public header files licensed bsd but everything else lGPL. > > Cheers > > Simon > > > On top of finding a new desktop, now I have to adjust our budgets. I > have > > to take out a line item. > > Not a happy camper. > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Thomas Strobel <ts...@cam.ac.uk> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 19:14 -0200, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > >>> this was on purpose. > >>> > >>> The recent authors (cedric, me, tom...) decided they didn't like BSD > >>> as the ancient and the license was hurting us as nobody gave back. > >>> Then when we created Eina to unify data types in ecore and evas, we > >>> proposed to do it in LGPL and people accepted, raster was okay with > >>> that and so we did. > >>> > >> Thanks for the explanation. Just out of curiosity, did it help? I mean, > >> did you get more people to contribute back to the project now? > >> > >>> we couldn't change the license of the whole code to LGPL because of > >>> practical issues (we'd have to contact and get permission of all > >>> authors), then as the BSD licensed code is basically "casted" into > >>> LGPL automatically there is no problem in mixing them. > >>> > >>> You should consider the thing as LGPL. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 1:28 PM, Andrew F <andrewfriedman...@gmail.com > > > >> wrote: > >>>> Thomas, > >>>> Thanks for pointing that out. Good question. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Thomas Strobel <ts...@cam.ac.uk> > >> wrote: > >>>>> Hello, > >>>>> > >>>>> i have a question concerning the licensing of EFL. What it the > thought > >>>>> behind releasing Eina with LGPL whereas almost everything else is > >> under > >>>>> BSD? I mean, Eina is the most fundamental part out of all, but has > the > >>>>> least permissive license. 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