On 20/02/14 11:23, Cedric BAIL wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Tom Hacohen <tom.haco...@samsung.com> wrote:
>> On 20/02/14 10:57, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 19:41, Cedric BAIL wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I agree with you here, the short summary could really get better with
>>>> some policy. Maybe we could agree on a format and make sure that git
>>>> wont accept a commit that doesn't follow those rules ?
>>>
>>> I would like to avoid such dragonic measures if possible. Especially
>>> here you could force the format but not enforce a good message. e.g.
>>>
>>> efl: Fix calculation @fix @backport
>>>
>>> Something like this would pass a fictive server hook to enforce it but
>>> would still be useless.
>>>
>>> It would be way better if people would try hard to improve their
>>> commits in this area and make a bit more social pressure like letting
>>> TAsn loose again to rant about commit messages. :)
>>
>> I'm always loose, just a bit distracted recently. :P
>>
>> Btw, @backport is implied by @fix. I.e only commits that should be
>> backported are marked as @fix. The rest should not, as it's not of
>> interest to the news file or anything, and is just "development".
>>
>> I'm with stefan though, I'm against using tech measures to solve this
>> social issue.
>>
>> The way I see it, there are 2 ways to go at it:
>> 1. Bad cop: Warn repeating offenders, and remove commit access if they
>> fail to improve. Commit messages are an important part of sw dev. If
>> people can't do that, we can't trust them with commit access.
>> 2. Good cop: You get a free pass to ignore commits that do not pass your
>> quality control when preparing the news/release info and etc.
>> Essentially making it so offenders to get credit for their fixes/features.
>>
>> I prefer the second option, but the first 1 is also valid.
>
> Automated even with a light check (enforcing length and a format that
> at least specify on what they are working) is enough to make people
> think about what they are writing. Having a human harass people to get
> it right, is just going to direct the frustration to a real human
> instead of against a stupid machine that wont mind.
>

Yeah, but my frustration will be tunnelled back towards the offenders. 
While a machine forgives and forgets, I hold grudges and will hunt them 
forever. ;P

Seriously though, a machine can only do as much. I think it's bound to 
frustrate the non-offenders more than the offenders with glitches and etc.

Also, not all commits need a proper commit message.

"Updated TODO".
"Updated .gitignore"
And a lot of other cases, do not warrant a verbose commit message.

--
Tom.


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