On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Chris Michael <devilho...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> On 08/25/2014 08:42 AM, Simon wrote:
>
> >
> > Which brings us to the point that most users are being forced to use a
> > slower buggier version of enlightenment although a better one exists
> > (because they either don't have the time or expertise to build
> > enlightenment from source). The only reason that i can see is because
> > enlightenment is waiting for wayland support which none of them will be
> > able to use as no distro's ship with it yet.
>
> Not sure what you mean here, but many distros already ship with wayland
> packages available.
>

I guess what i was trying to say here, which i didn't say well is all
distro's as far as i'm aware still ship with X so shipping e19 without
wayland support isn't going to hurt anyone


>
>   Apparently enlightenment
> > releases happen "When its ready" and as far as i can tell its ready for
> > 99% of people. If wayland support is ready in 3 months then e20 can be
> > released then with wayland support (you don't even need to lift the
> > feature freeze before then) but currently most of the wayland work is
> > being done in personal branches that know one can see
>
> Umm, we do have a web page for browsing git ... and all the "personal"
> branches you refer to (for wayland development) are up and listed there:
>
>
> https://git.enlightenment.org/core/enlightenment.git/log/?h=devs/devilhorns/e_comp_wl
>
>
> https://git.enlightenment.org/core/enlightenment.git/log/?h=devs/devilhorns/xwayland
>
> https://git.enlightenment.org/core/efl.git/log/?h=devs/devilhorns/xdg_shell
>
> And many others....So I don't get the "no one can see" statement...
>

Sorry i haven't looked lately, I was just going with what i had been told /
read on IRC.


>
>   and know one has
> > been able to tell me when it will be ready.
>
> Well, that I can understand....frankly because nobody knows when it will
> be ready. There is a bit left todo sure, but I am only one person with X
> amount of time available....
>
> dh
>
>
This is my main point, atm from my experience i feel that e19 is in pretty
good usable shape, much better then e18 and as such i would much rather
ship e19, which is hard to do without a release.

I understand your one person doing a excellent job getting wayland ready
and i look forward to shipping e with wayland soon. It would just be
convenient for me and possibly other distro maintainers to have a release
now before wayland is ready, then another in a few months when your wayland
work has been finished and we have all had a chance to test it a little.

Keep up the good work, its very much appreciated

Cheers
Simon Lees
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