On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:13 PM, Daniel Kolesa <quake...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2014-09-29 14:23 GMT+01:00 Chris Michael <devilho...@comcast.net>: >> On 09/29/2014 09:17 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >> > On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 09:06:30 -0400 Chris Michael <devilho...@comcast.net> >> said: >> >> On 09/29/2014 07:47 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 09:52:23 +0200 Cedric BAIL <cedric.b...@free.fr> >> said: >> >>> >> >>>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:46 AM, Carsten Haitzler < >> ras...@rasterman.com> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>>> On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 23:44:32 +0200 Cedric BAIL <cedric.b...@free.fr> >> said: >> >>>>>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:58 PM, Lucas De Marchi >> >>>>>> <lucas.de.mar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>>>> Em 28/09/2014 08:46, "Graham Gower" <graham.go...@gmail.com> >> escreveu: >> >>>>>>>> I've attempted to build using the easy_efl.sh script and received >> the >> >>>>>>>> build error referenced in the subject (full build log follows >> >>>>>>>> message). >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Is there a particular version of udev that is required now, but >> hasn't >> >>>>>>>> been put in the autoconf goo? I have udev 182 on a linux distro >> >>>>>>>> without systemd. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> From >> >>>>>>> >> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/src/libudev/libudev.sym?id=946f1825751919a176cd0039002a514de0c9c70f >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> libudev 199 >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Question as always how many distribution ship this library and how >> >>>>>> many don't. Should we make 199 mandatory or should we just disable >> the >> >>>>>> code that require 199 (I guess it is related to wayland). >> >>>>> >> >>>>> since systemd and udev merged... a lot seem to have stopped updating >> udev >> >>>>> at all and may b e on a multi-year-old udev (eg 2011). so our >> choices are >> >>>>> to force an upgrade or work on these distros, or we need a way to >> emulate >> >>>>> this udev call inside eeze iof udev is older. that means someone has >> to >> >>>>> do the emulation code work there. >> >>>> >> >>>> Do we really need to ? We could just disable Wayland support if udev >> >>>> is to old, as I think that is the only think that rely on it. The >> >>>> question is more what about other system than Linux. >> >>> >> >>> that makes for a poor eeze api that may or may not work based on a >> hidden >> >>> udev version at compile time of eeze. >> >>> >> >> >> >> Well, perhaps for the moment we can detect the udev version and just >> >> #ifdef the internal eeze code to skip that function call. Fixes the >> >> build problem while Not breaking code for people that have a sane udev >> >> version. Thoughts ?? >> > >> > but downside is we have an eeze fn that now is broken for some and not >> > others... and then when some try wayland things mysteriously fail.. >> we'll hit >> > this sooner or later in one form or another. best get it sorted now >> while fresh. >> > >> >> Ok. Makes sense :) >> >> So...what is the general "agreed" plan for sorting this ?? I've seen a >> couple of thoughts on this thread, but no clear plan/path. I don't mind >> doing the legwork if we all can agree on a path.... >> > > IMHO best approach would be to create an abstracted library that doesn't > access libudev or anything directly, but rather provides abstracted > controls for stuff like backlight, disks etc. - which could potentially be > integrated with any OS or backend, including udev, devd, etc.; after that, > deprecate Eeze. It would be the cleanest solution, but is also more of a > long term solution. So for the time being, just ifdef it out and keep a > ticket open for solution. If there's anything we do *not* need, it's stupid > thin wrappers.
Of course, a better library would be the best solution, sadly no time nor anyone interested at this stage. I am guessing the one that would have to do it will be someone that use a BSD all day where those feature are missing and will start to do it because of that. -- Cedric BAIL ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Slashdot TV. Videos for Nerds. Stuff that Matters. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=160591471&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
