Most of your post was repetitive, and way too long. lol On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 18:47:08 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[email protected]> wrote:
> hahahah. :) but seriously i know your complaint. the problem is that > i don't buy it given copious reasons. I don't buy your arguments either. Especially not your copious arguments that "but you already have plenty of law violating code". Considering how much I did manage to disable, there's a lot less than you ranted on and on about. There is a threshold for how much excess code in publicly available libraries can be used. Minimising that is still kosher, and it then becomes a "best commercial effort" thing. "Best effort" in this case means using the tools that the library provides (not bothering to compile all of it, using lots and lots of --disable-* configure options, etc). "Best effort" in this thread means trying to convince you not to make my best efforts much less effective AND not making my effort way harder, in your plans. Mind you, I have other reasons for this, I mentioned some of them already. Which you ignored, as predicted. I guess we can agree to disagree, and I'll stick with 1.7 for these embedded projects. Like those other people Cedric mentioned that stuck with 1.7, for pretty much the same reason. > > Don't even get me started on efreet. Crap code written to replace > > crap code I had half written, coz someone thought mine was too crap > > (based purely on style??!?!??!!), and they wouldn't give me a > > chance to finish it. Mine was destined to be less crap, but the > > FDO protocol itself is crap, my initial code reflected that. There > > are still bugs in efreet being solved today that my original didn't > > have. I had a half hearted plan to rewrite efreet, but I got busy > > writing applications. After that, all the work I did to get > > Enlightenment start up time down to much less than a second has > > been wasted as well, now it takes so long that we need to provide a > > splash screen. Not happy Jan! > > i added a splash screen form like almost the first days of e17. so i > don't buy that. it had nothing to do with efreet. but indeed dealing > with fdo standards is a pain. What, you don't remember how excited you got when I managed to reduce E startup time to a fraction of a second? It was your idea, and you helped. Not long enough to be able to actually see a splash screen. Remember my test P100 used for the benchmarking? And correct, startup time had nothing to do with efreet, it's just that's when the slow down started to happen after my speed ups. Hence why I said "After that" when introducing the startup time bit. Probably should have been two paragraphs. My efreet rant is separate from my startup time rant. Both things however contributed to my reasons for not doing much EFL library work these days. There are other reasons. Why work so hard, if my results are almost immediately broken / replaced by others? Efreet replaced my efforts without even waiting for me to finish them, a complete waste of my time. I don't mind stuff I wrote being replaced later, like the Edje Lua bindings, that's the EFL way after all. Just give it fucking time to show if it should be replaced, don't replace something that's not finished simply coz you don't like the style. Like Vincent though, I might come back and do more EFL work later. Hell, I actually made an EFL commit this year! My priority for spare coding time these days is my EFL based virtual worlds project though, so don't expect any big EFL coding efforts from me for a while. Cedric may yet convince me to do some Evas_3D work though, he's trying. </rant> In my opinion, splash screens on anything are just to distract users, coz the startup time is too long. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
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