On Wed, 2 Dec 2015 10:42:43 -0800 Cedric BAIL <cedric.b...@free.fr> said:

> Hello,
> 
> I am just going to say that Mike proposal is the one that make most
> sense and will be the most efficient for everyone without forever
> discussing every little detail. We could even go as far as
> decomissionning our current mailing list.

or just leave it as-is and unsubscribe if you dont want it, or use filters
locally or... use phab.

i don't see any value in centrally imposing some policy on everyone where
everyone will end up disagreeing on what they want to watch or not.

use the git-commits firehose that is "everything"

btw - our git commits mailing lists runs on e.org - not on sf.net infra. so sf
is irrelevant here.

i don't see the point of decommissioning the list - it's useful and works and
takes effort to decommission. as above. use phab or local filters and filter as
you like.

> Cedric
> 
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Mike Blumenkrantz
> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > My preference would be to do away with the commit mailing list entirely.
> > It's easy to set a follow rule on phab for projects that you're interested
> > in, and this has the added benefit of reducing our reliance on the
> > failure-prone sourceforge infrastructure. Moreover, it would avoid future
> > arguments over whether a project is important enough to be on the list.
> >
> > As an example of how easy this is:
> > 1) go to https://phab.enlightenment.org/herald/new/ (accessed through the
> > applications link on the left panel -> herald -> create new rule)
> > 2) click commit (top option)
> > 3) click continue
> > 4) click personal (top option)
> > 5) click continue
> > 6) make up a rule name in the top field
> > 7) change condition to "Repository" and "is any of"
> > 8) click magnifying glass on right to add whatever projects you're
> > interested in
> > 9) change action to "send me an email"
> > 10) click save rule
> >
> > You now have a rule which notifies you about your repositories of interest
> > and can be changed at any time. To only receive mails for "master" branch
> > commits, simply add another condition with "branches" "contains" "master".
> >
> > Furthermore, mails from phab will contain links to the commit audit on
> > phab, a useful tool which we do not make enough use of. Not only does it
> > allow inline reviewing of commits along with direct ticket/diff
> > referencing, it also will directly mail the associated author of the
> > audited commit--something which the commit list cannot automatically do.
> >
> > Lastly, using the audit method allows developers to set more herald rules
> > to automatically add themselves to audited commits, meaning that any time a
> > review is started they will receive a mail, similar to the current review
> > workflow. Unlike the current workflow, however, a developer can also create
> > specialized rules to automatically begin an audit session (with
> > notification) when certain criteria are met, eg. specific files which the
> > developer maintains are modified by someone else.
> > To test this, simply follow the above steps but use "add me as an auditor"
> > instead of/in addition to "send me an email". This can be further
> > restricted by adding another condition to the rule which specifies "change
> > conditions", allowing pruning based on commit size, content, and specific
> > files.
> >
> > Sure, this is a little more work than clicking subscribe, then waiting for
> > the confirmation mail, then clicking the confirm link, then clicking the
> > confirm button after maybe thinking of a throwaway password, but I think
> > the benefits are worthwhile enough to make this a project standard.
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 9:55 AM Stephen Houston <smhousto...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I think leaving it like it is, or number two, would be the right option.
> >> The commit ml is the easiest way for me to quickly get an idea of what is
> >> going on across git, not just the core projects.   "Oh look, edi added
> >> faster syntax highlighting... Sweet!".
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Tom Hacohen <t...@osg.samsung.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hey,
> >> >
> >> > I'm sending this email to raise an issue that has been annoying me for
> >> > the last few months, but especially in the last couple of weeks.
> >> >
> >> > As it stands the Git ML is cluttered and it's very annoying for me to
> >> > review commits that are of relevance to me. The problem, is that in the
> >> > Git ML we send emails for all of the commits in all of the repos in
> >> > git.e.org. This includes some more niche projects. This means I get
> >> > hundreds of commits a week that I don't care about, and this number will
> >> > only grow once more projects are added. To make matters even worse,
> >> > those projects don't follow the EFL commit guidelines and have authors
> >> > like "Gerrit <xxxx>" or just merge commits.
> >> >
> >> > I could solve it locally, by filtering out the main offenders according
> >> > to the repository name (we pass it in the header), though I suspect I'm
> >> > one of many to be annoyed by it (I already know I'm not the only one).
> >> >
> >> > I think it's time to tackle that. I came out with two alternatives:
> >> > 1. Only send commit emails for "core" efl projects.
> >> > 2. Split the git ML to two MLs, "core" and "extra".
> >> >
> >> > By core projects I mean: e, efl (+ loaders), elm and terminology. Maybe
> >> > also any other project that is developed by more than a few efl
> >> > developers and follows our guidelines.
> >> >
> >> > In addition, I recommend all the projects to follow the E commit
> >> > guidelines to make the commit history more manageable. This will both
> >> > lessen this annoyance and improve the commit history of the relevant
> >> > projects.
> >> >
> >> > Please let me know what you think.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Tom.
> >> >
> >> >
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