Ok. then he just don't remember his code. 
 
Regards, Hermet
  
-----Original Message-----
From: "Daniel Juyung Seo"<[email protected]> 
To: "Enlightenment developer 
list"<[email protected]>; 
Cc: <[email protected]>; "Carsten 
Haitzler"<[email protected]>; 
Sent: 2015-12-29 (화) 19:16:14
Subject: Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/elementary] master 01/01: elm_win: Remove 
unnecessary layer set for elm_win.
 
raster is the original author.
https://git.enlightenment.org/core/elementary.git/commit/?id=6ccca8f8abe9d2d198ea53fc9c8daabcb95cd7d6
Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)


On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 7:06 PM, Hermet Park <[email protected]> wrote:
> Seoz, as the e developer, i asking about the risky code.
> Read my first mail.
>
>
>  "i'm sure he already asked."
> is this guessing? I just let you know the fact
> since you argue it's necessary to ask raster, all of sudden.
>
> Even i didn't see eye to eye with you that point.
> Why it needs to ask raster? raster didn't write that code. :(
>
> Regards, Hermet
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Daniel Juyung Seo"<[email protected]>
> To: "Enlightenment developer 
list"<[email protected]>;
> Cc: <[email protected]>; "Carsten 
Haitzler"<[email protected]>;
> Sent: 2015-12-29 (화) 17:27:21
> Subject: Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/elementary] master 01/01: elm_win: 
Remove unnecessary layer set for elm_win.
>
> Hi hermet
>
> > I didn't guess anything here nor agree both jaehyun and amitesh.
>
> This is because you said "i'm sure he already asked." Just saying "i'm
> sure" does not guarantee that Jaehyun actually discussed this with
> raster.
> The best way to communicate is to bring jaehyun in this talk instead
> of speaking on behalf of him. Why isn't he responsive? Maybe on a
> vacation? I think you guys sit very close so you can easily ping him
> if he is on site.
>
> > just leaving those risky code without any reasons doesn't make sense 
to me either.
> > In point of my view, if the code is incorrect and it disturbs 
improvement then we definitely try to improve it.
>
> I absolutely agree with this.
> I think you already know my point but repeating my self:
> To remove this kind of ancient and influential code, it's better to
> discuss with the original author first as he is alive and responsive.
> The thing jaehyun missed was 1. he didn't mention about that in the
> commit message and 2. he didn't responsive to the feedback of his
> commit.
>
> We're talking about the basics of cooperation. No one needs to be blamed.
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Hermet Park <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> > I'm sorry but i have no idea about your point here Seoz.
> > I didn't guess anything here nor agree both jaehyun and amitesh.
> > But the code in win looked strange to me.
> >
> > But now, the point i want argue you here is,
> > just leaving those risky code without any reasons doesn't make sense 
to me either.
> > In point of my view, if the code is incorrect and it disturbs 
improvement then we definitely try to improve it.
> >
> >
> > Here the point is,
> > jaehyun needs prove that patch doesn't cause any side effects. 
otherwise, the patch seems be good to efl.
> >
> >
> > Regards, Hermet
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "Daniel Juyung Seo"<[email protected]>
> > To: "Carsten Haitzler"<[email protected]>; "Amitesh 
Singh"<[email protected]>;
> > Cc: "Enlightenment developer 
list"<[email protected]>; 
<[email protected]>;
> > Sent: 2015-12-29 (화) 15:28:41
> > Subject: Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/elementary] master 01/01: 
elm_win: Remove unnecessary layer set for elm_win.
> >
> > +Amitesh
> >
> > Thanks raster.
> > Problem solved.
> >
> > Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Carsten Haitzler 
<[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:00:40 +0900 Daniel Juyung Seo 
<[email protected]>
> > > said:
> > >
> > >> +Jaehyun
> > >>
> > >> OK let's stop guessing by ourselves and just ask Jaehyun and 
Raster.
> > >> Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
> > >
> > > i did tell jaehyun that i have no idea why that is there and it 
likely shouldnt
> > > be. its too long ago as to remember why its there as it was 
there in the
> > > initial elm win code.
> > >
> > >> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 9:41 AM, Hermet Park 
<[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> > i'm sure he already asked.
> > >> >
> > >> > Regards, Hermet
> > >> >
> > >> > -----Original Message-----
> > >> > From: "Daniel Juyung Seo"<[email protected]>
> > >> > To: "Enlightenment developer
> > >> > list"<[email protected]>; 
Cc: "Carsten
> > >> > Haitzler"<[email protected]>; Sent: 2015-12-28 
(월) 15:58:15
> > >> > Subject: Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/elementary] master 
01/01: elm_win:
> > >> > Remove unnecessary layer set for elm_win.
> > >> >
> > >> > This code was there for years and it could impact the 
behavior.
> > >> > I think there must be a good reason for this code but I 
also have a
> > >> > doubt on this code.
> > >> >
> > >> > One thing I am sure is that if someone would like to 
change the code
> > >> > like this(been there for ages and could give an 
impact), it should be
> > >> > discussed with the original author(in this case, 
Raster) first as far
> > >> > as he/she is reachable. Do not just remove the code 
just because you
> > >> > don't know why.
> > >> >
> > >> > Of course, this could be a workaround code and needs to 
be removed but
> > >> > anyways ask raster first. I think there must be a 
reason.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > Daniel Juyung Seo (SeoZ)
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Hermet 
<[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >> If it doesn't cause any critical side 
effects/compatibility issues, I
> > >> >> can't see any reasons to keep it in.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> No one expects window layer value is 50.
> > >> >> But I'd rather ask why 50? why it should have layer 
50?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Specifically, evas_object_layer_set() API has been 
exposed,
> > >> >> which means the layer setting is up to users, even 
window object can be
> > >> >> dealt with the API by users.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Additionally, window object was special one so it 
have been deal with
> > >> >> event stuff differently.
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Regards, Hermet
> > >> >>
> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> From: "Amitesh Singh"<[email protected]>
> > >> >> To: "Enlightenment developer
> > >> >> 
list"<[email protected]>; Cc: "Carsten
> > >> >> Haitzler"<[email protected]>; Sent: 
2015-12-25 (금) 16:05:50
> > >> >> Subject: Re: [E-devel] [EGIT] [core/elementary] 
master 01/01: elm_win:
> > >> >> Remove unnecessary layer set for elm_win.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Hello
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Dec 18, 2015 3:54 PM, "Jaehyun Cho" 
<[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> jaehyun pushed a commit to branch master.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >> 
http://git.enlightenment.org/core/elementary.git/commit/?id=a9be1d488daf74d11181909fb6c454991272fe1e
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> commit a9be1d488daf74d11181909fb6c454991272fe1e
> > >> >>> Author: Jaehyun Cho 
<[email protected]>
> > >> >>> Date:   Fri Dec 18 19:18:51 2015 +0900
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>     elm_win: Remove unnecessary layer set for 
elm_win.
> > >> >>> ---
> > >> >>>  src/lib/elm_win.c  1 -
> > >> >>>  1 file changed, 1 deletion(-)
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> diff --git a/src/lib/elm_win.c 
b/src/lib/elm_win.c
> > >> >>> index b1a05ae..f509f95 100644
> > >> >>> --- a/src/lib/elm_win.c
> > >> >>> +++ b/src/lib/elm_win.c
> > >> >>> @@ -3830,7 +3830,6 @@ 
_elm_win_finalize_internal(Eo *obj, Elm_Win_Data
> > >> >> *sd, const char *name, Elm_Win_
> > >> >>>     evas_object_color_set(obj, 0, 0, 0, 0);
> > >> >>>     evas_object_move(obj, 0, 0);
> > >> >>>     evas_object_resize(obj, 1, 1);
> > >> >>> -   evas_object_layer_set(obj, 50);
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I wonder why it was removed.  As far as I know,  
elm win is a fake ecore
> > >> >> evas object. Basically it's just a wrapper of ecore 
evas and since elm win
> > >> >> does not contain any object so I think it's better 
to put it at layer 50.
> > >> >> After this change,  there could be a case when it 
does not receive any
> > >> >> events as it might go at lowest at layer 0. This 
could result into some
> > >> >> side effects. Please consider this.
> > >> >>>     evas_object_pass_events_set(obj, EINA_TRUE);
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>     if (type == ELM_WIN_INLINED_IMAGE)
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> --
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >> 
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