On 02/09/2017 12:42 AM, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > Hello. > > On 07/02/17 10:37, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: >> On Tue, 7 Feb 2017 18:25:58 +1030 Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de> said: >> >>> >>> >>> On 02/06/2017 10:06 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >>>> >>>> Time-based releases keep the expectations if they are followed. Once >>>> we miss the frame, we start to have this feature-based releases ("oh, >>>> waited so long, can wait a bit more") and when people work >>>> independently, they always have some in-flux work that could get in... >>>> so at some point these guys will want to delay a bit more so their >>>> work gets in as well... endless wait -- AKA e17/efl-1.0 >>>> >>>> IOW: just do it, and let's not miss the 3 month schedule next time. ;-) >>>> >>>> >>> >>> The problem is people (even some in Samsung) are writing software that >>> depends on unstable eo, regardless of whether its wrong or right its >>> happening. This means that every release there is an extra bunch of work >>> for downstream projects to roll another release and then for distro's to >>> package all theses changes. > > What are the offending packages you have to deal with here? As far as I > know it neither Enlightenment nor Termonology nor Rage is using any EO > based API. > > They only ones I know of are developer tools like Edi, Eventor and > Efleete. Are these packaged in OpenSUSE? >
These are the main ones, there packaged but not in the main repo's and won't be until eo is stable. I held of packaging them at all for a long time but every indication was given that interfaces would be done for 1.18 and I wanted to try them so I built packages. I can't remember if ephoto also does, but I have test packages based off its last beta so if it does it would probably also need another beta. efm/verne/jesus also does but i'm only building that from git snapshots anyway so its less of an issue. In short really the people already using eo and those that want the regular 3 month releases back to a lesser extent really need to pitch in and get the work finished. -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
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