PS i use a cleaned up debian, no apparmor or the like, i mean (i try to
avoid systemd too, as far as i can, i reenable it when i try wayland, since
i'm not using that in daybyday use)

On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 9:48 AM, PaulTT <[email protected]> wrote:

> i just posted a message about this... (sorry, i've seen now this thread)
>
> as i said there, there's also a problem with unlocking (so, pam related, i
> assume ?)
> via console su and sudo worked like a charm (i've got error messages about
> cpufreq and backlight too)
>
> could the problem be related to some new sh**y systemd operation????
> i saw that also using wayland, i coulnd't access halt/reboot/suspend menu
> items too (this happens to me also with previous kernels)
>
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 6:19 AM, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 04 May 2017 11:09:13 +0900 <[email protected]> said:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > On Wed, 3 May 2017 12:09:21 +0900 Florian Schaefer <[email protected]>
>> said:
>> >
>> > > > Hi!
>> > > >
>> > > > On 03.05.2017 10:04, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
>> > > > > On Tue, 02 May 2017 21:16:40 +0900 [email protected] said:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Hi,
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> I got the source of kernel 4.11, then comipled, and check the
>> > > > >> behaviour of enlightenment (efl 1.18.1, enlightment 0.21.7).
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> At the start up of enlightenment, I got an error message;
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>  There was an error trying to set the cpu power state setting
>> via the
>> > > > >>  module's setfreq utility.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On the kernel 4.10.x, I never see such a message.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> And, I tried to use su and sudo command in the terminal, I got a
>> > > > >> strange message;
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> fulwood@linux-uw5l:~> sudo
>> > > > >> sudo: effective uid is not 0, is sudo installed setuid root
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> fulwood@linux-uw5l:~> su
>> > > > >> Password:
>> > > > >> su: incorrect password
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> This means, there is a problem concerning uid treatment in the
>> > > > >> enlightenment, doesn't it.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Moreover, VirtualBox indicate the problem of enlightenment
>> directly;
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> fulwood@linux-uw51:~> VirtualBox
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> VirtualBox: Error -10 in SUPRHardenedMain!
>> > > > >> VirtualBox: Effective UID is not root (euid=1000, egid=100,
>> uid=1000,
>> > > > >>             gid=100)
>> > > > >> VirtualBox: Tip! It may help to reintall VirtualBox.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Why does uid=1000?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > that's a common uid to start with for users added to a system -
>> first
>> > > > > user added commonly is uid 1000... that's probably ... you.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> So, we can't use enlightenment on the kernel 4.11.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > from the above it seems like since you compiled your own kernel it
>> > > > > seemingly has disabled setuid root binaries. i assume this is
>> some new
>> > > > > feature of kernels since 4.11 that has been turned on. i suggest
>> you
>> > > > > turn it off to allow them again. your kernel broke far more than
>> > > > > enlightenment. it broke sudo. probably even broke su. it broke
>> > > > > virtualbox... it broke stuff. what that option is - i don't know.
>> this
>> > > > > is news to me.
>> > > >
>> > > > Just for the record I'd like to add that I observe the same
>> behavior.
>> > > >
>> > > > Since switching from 4.9 to 4.11 yesterday I cannot do suid
>> requiring
>> > > > operations (like su or mount.cifs) from within E (using terminology
>> or
>> > > > xterm) any more. Interestingly, if I am right at the console (so no
>> Xorg
>> > > > and e in-between) all those commands work like a charm.
>> > > >
>> > > > I could not find any setuid related option in the kernel
>> configuration
>> > > > so I cannot really imagine where it is misconfigured.
>> >
>> > > it'll likely be some security option that ends up doing this for child
>> > > processes ... whatever/however it is... but its certainly a change in
>> the
>> > > kernel and "security options" of some sort.
>> >
>> > But, why the kernel's change has an impact on enlightenment only?
>> > On e16 and kde-plasma, no impact.
>>
>> neither controls cpu frequency/governor or don't use setuid root binaries
>> or
>> they come from packages with specific selinux rules to allow setuid root
>> binaries... or something. but it's a kernel change that creates the
>> issue. what
>> - i don't know. ask your friendly neighbourhood kernel developer. the
>> setuid
>> root binaries are specifically erroring out unable to assume root privs
>> where
>> they could before.
>>
>>
>> --
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