Hello.
On 05/31/2017 02:36 PM, Simon Lees wrote:
On 31/05/17 19:07, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
Hello.
No idea when Mike is planning a new E release where all this drm and
wayland patches and APIs would be needed. Have to check back with him.
There are other parts of e including but not limited to bryce that still
need more work. Either way e will have a stability phase / freeze anyway
so if that did become ready to happen we could also start the efl one
and do the two releases at a similar time.
If that happens to be at the same time by chance I see no problem, but I
will not adapt the efl release schedule to the E one. They have been
driven quite differently and that worked well for both sides. At least I
can say that from my side.
And lets be frank here (not pissed but simply frank). I think the last
two releases have been very bad.
o You and other wanted to wait longer and longer before a release should
happen to reduce pain with app using the EO API
o Other asked me when there finally will be a new release so they do not
have to depend on and use HEAD
o The long development phase resulted in a _very_ long stabilization
phase due to the many changes coming in.
o So long that many developers did not look at bug fixing anymore and
started to develop new stuff in branches.
o Nobody could tell when a release will be done. It the Debian way "its
done when its done" allover again.
I'm doing the efl releases since 1.9 (3.5 years by now) and I invested a
huge amount of time and energy to fine tune the process and finding ways
to make it work for as many parties as possible. Personally I'm proud of
what we achieved in that regard.
If we are now going to change this all back to how efl was released
before I will not stand in the way, but I will also not handle the
releases anymore. No bad feelings, no tears, no blood. :) I will simply
step down as release manager and let someone else take over. Maybe some
fresh vibes could help, who knows? :)
regards
Stefan Schmidt
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