Could we connect Web based irc chat like qwebirc that free noted uses to connectar to their network and have it by default connect to purchase channel?
Sent from Samsung tablet.-------- Original message --------From: Andrew Williams <a...@andywilliams.me> Date: 10/07/2017 06:40 (GMT+01:00) To: Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>, Enlightenment developer list <enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [E-devel] Notes from community discussion in Malta I think it would be reasonable to assume that I was not meaning force everyone to be awake all the time. Something that I have learned recently, however, is that there is a big difference between massages and communication (think similar to how data is not as meaningful as information) - that is what interests me. Rather than just creating a bigger room where more people can miss each other why not figure smarter ways to get the right folk connected - or connect new people with their answers directly. It does not have to mean sleep depravation! Andy On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 at 00:39, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > On Sun, 09 Jul 2017 18:32:23 +0000 Andrew Williams <a...@andywilliams.me> > said: > > > With another way to get folk on IRC we don't necessarily improve the > > experience for folk looking for help - it's a mass of folk who may be afk > > or may not be able to answer the questions - a lot of the time we see > > we at least connect the people. you can't force people to be awake 24/7 or > to > answer things. you can smooth the entry barriers down as much as possible > in > the hope things improve. > > > people join, ask a question and leave some time later having "no waited > > long enough" for the right person to swing by. I'd be keen to see if > there > > are mechanisms for answering questions quicker or helping folk identify > how > > to get answers faster or more reliably... > > pay people fulltime to be alert 24/7 to reply? irc (and even slack) is for > the > impatient and for "instant response". that's it's nature. otherwise we have > used email for longer term stuff. and as was mentioned - forums are the www > equivalent. you still then have a barrier of making people register etc. > and > then if forms don't integrate with email as it stands we divide the > community > again... which is why i'd prefer a solution that keeps it together as much > as > possible to improve the chances that people actually interact. :) > > > Andy > > > > On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 at 10:25, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 22:06:16 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > > > <ras...@rasterman.com> said: > > > > > > > On Sun, 9 Jul 2017 11:14:29 +0100 Al Poole <nets...@gmail.com> said: > > > > > > > > > I think you're right if you're only talking about developers. It > would > > > be > > > > > good to get users involved, i see there's quite a lot of people who > > > hang > > > > > out in #e on freenode. If they could be more engaged that might be > > > > > encouraging to them and let developers do dev.... > > > > > > > > the problem is we need and want developers to engage with users. > reddit > > > is a > > > > good example of a well done "forum". the real thing is a stand alone > > > forum > > > > fragments further. if we can tie it to email that'd be perfect. > > > > > > > > smooch is a good idea too. has technical issues and usability > problems, > > > but i > > > > think we could take the idea and improve it with better integration > to > > > irc > > > > e.g. use an irc bot on #e and the bot just provides a WWW window > into #e > > > for > > > > as long as the chat window in the browser is up. > > > > > > FYI: > > > > > > http://rdf4j.org/support/irc-web-chat/ > > > https://kiwiirc.com/ > > > > > > having that come up and just join #e (and nothing else) on our www > might > > > actually be the best.... :) maybe just provide a "select nick name > here" > > > box > > > with a "go chat" and have it randomly choose the default nick name in > js > > > on the > > > www page... :) glue #e to slack like we glued #edevelop with a bot. > IMHO > > > better > > > than smooch by far. > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 7:27 AM, Pierre Couderc <pie...@couderc.eu> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 07/09/2017 06:30 AM, Vincent Torri wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> with mailing list, phab and irc as the current way to ask > > > questions, > > > > > >> file bugs or talk about development, is there sufficiently > manpower > > > to > > > > > >> ask more questions in a forum ? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> i don't think so. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Vincent > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> +1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > -------------- > > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > -------------- > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > _______________________________________________ > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > -- > > http://andywilliams.me > > http://ajwillia.ms > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > -- > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > -- http://andywilliams.me http://ajwillia.ms ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
