On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 11:50:18 +0300 Vincent Torri <vincent.to...@gmail.com> said:
> On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > wrote: > > On Sun, 3 Sep 2017 16:16:39 +0930 Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de> said: > > > >> > >> > >> On 02/09/17 23:55, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >> > On Sat, 2 Sep 2017 12:53:05 +0930 Simon Lees <sfl...@suse.de> said: > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On 02/09/17 10:51, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > >> >>> On Fri, 1 Sep 2017 20:38:59 +0200 marcel-hollerb...@t-online.de said: > >> >>> > >> >>>> On Fri, Sep 01, 2017 at 08:07:18PM +0200, Davide Andreoli wrote: > >> >>>>> 2017-09-01 19:50 GMT+02:00 Mike Blumenkrantz > >> >>>>> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com > >> >>>>>> : > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>>> It seems that the two build systems have fallen out of sync far > >> >>>>>> faster than I expected, and the autotools build is both no longer > >> >>>>>> functional and cannot provide a dist which is able to build using > >> >>>>>> meson. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>>> I'm not particularly interested in putting in even more work to try > >> >>>>>> and maintain something which is pending removal, so if anyone is > >> >>>>>> super interested in keeping it for the E22 release then patches are > >> >>>>>> welcome, otherwise I'll plan to remove autotools entirely next week > >> >>>>>> before starting the official release cycle. > >> >>>>>> > >> >>>>> > >> >>>>> +1 > >> >>>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> +1 > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Just probebly checking if meson versions etc. fit the most distros, so > >> >>>> we dont leave users behind. > >> >>> > >> >>> i think then autogen.sh should do what rage does and do a meson build > >> >>> setup and fix appropriate INSTALL files etc. for how to build... > >> >>> > >> >>> but we also should get some decent testing across multiple OS's like > >> >>> freebsd, openbsd (i know netstar maintains these as running > >> >>> systems ! :)). to ensure at least on a lot of targets it builds right. > >> >>> package maintainers too would be really fantastic if they could switch > >> >>> and test there too in package build env's > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> Speaking with a distro maintainers hat on, for this to be usable there > >> >> needs to be considerably more documentation, neither meson --help, > >> >> README or README.wayland tell me how to enable or disable building with > >> >> git. All that stuff simply should be there before you get distro's to > >> >> try it (or intend to remove autotools) otherwise your just wasting our > >> >> time. Equally the html documentation is not built automatically and > >> >> there is no indication of how one might build it. > >> > > >> > copying the above docs over and autogen.sh over would solve that. i can > >> > do it now if you want... but it's mean autogen is now meson not autofoo > >> > so autofoo build will effectively be disabled for most people. > >> > > >> > >> If meson --help listed the supported set of build flags that would be a > >> good starting point and likely good enough for me atleast but as of when > >> I wrote the email there was nothing which is annoying. > > > > meson just can't do that. not until you set up a build. then it will list > > options. see the INSTALL file in rage. you will just have to cat > > meson_options.txt to get project specific options (beyond the std meson > > ones). this is how meson works. there is nothing we can do about it. --help > > doesnt work like autotools. > > maybe mesonconf without argument ? See > http://mesonbuild.com/Build-options.html at the bottom you always have to first configure the project with meson for this to work. i.e. meson . build cd build mesonconf or now: meson configure instead of mesonconf > Vincent > > > > >> >> As a side note, git is also required for building (which wasn't the case > >> >> before). > >> > > >> > that is actually incorrect. git is required to create the dist tarball > >> > only. > >> > > >> > >> Git is required because if you try and do a build on a VM or chroot > >> without git installed meson will complain that git is not installed, > >> whether its used or not is another question but currently the e build > >> requires it. I'm not saying that its bad to need it its just another > >> change distro packagers should be aware of. > > > > well then its a build requires, but it's not USED. it doesnt need a git > > clone to do it. consider it then a build requirement OF meson. in fact it > > SHOULD be a depends of the meson package then and have nothing to do with > > us. :) > > > >> -- > >> > >> Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net > >> > >> Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek > >> SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 > >> GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B > >> > > > > > > -- > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
