On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 04:21, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > no - we don't support most of them yet. we still dont properly support basic > ICCCM. we need to make this all work properly. (PS - you managed to stay at > sun > without getting the chop! :):) good to hear after the recent axes falling in > the > UK).
Yeah - it was close, though. I lost 3 close colleagues - all of whom are doing well elsewhere now, but it was worrying at the time. That was last year - the recent one was people they kept until S10 was out the door. If we need to shrink further I don't think this will continue to be as fun a place to work =O( You seem to be happy with your change of country, though ;O) > PS: desktop elements of gnome and kde will never be guaranteed to work. ie > panel, nautilus, pagers etc. e17 has a much more sophisticated outlook on > virtual desktops than the fd.o netwm standards -<SNIP> but > we don't intend to do any work or compromise our own plans on design, > usability > and features just to "meet a standard". you are still always welcome to use > metacity and gnomes panel and nautilus instead - but think of e17 and > precluding > NOT JUST another wm but a set of other apps too. :) Of course I'd never expect E17 to be crippled to fit in with stuff it's trying to replace. The only thing I found a problem was iconised apps wouldn't re-open when clicked in the Panel. The rest could easily and obviously be done other ways - re-opening apps meant using the menu, which felt wrong. I know there's an Iconbar, I just haven't figure it out yet. Once I do, that last worry will be gone. It'd be nice if it understood the ICCCM signals though, so it can inter-operate some. Right now I use (well used, and will be using again once I get the latest CVS code installed on our SunRay server. I've finally given up my desktop SPARC for the glories of SunRay) E16 and all Kim's lovely work to replace Metacity, and it's wonderful for that. Metacity seems to have been designed to generate the minimum number of support calls... I also have a hand-build PC running JDS3/Linux, where e17 is now, and a Ferrari laptop running S10 x64, JDS3/Linux and very rarely XP. I'll be working on e17 on S10 side once I can get the graphics accelerated enough to be worth it. I've actually had more luck getting S10 right on the laptop than Linux, but the ATI drivers on linux are crap, and the Xorg ones on Solaris don't perform too well, though they're more stable =O( I spent some time working on Project LookingGlass in its early internal days, but E17 really does look better right now. ;O) > > I missed downloading the sky.eet file, if it was on the rasterman.com site, > though. Anyone still got it? > > still there - just changed names :) Oh great, a treasure hunt. Thanks =O) Ta, -- o o mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] /v\ark R. Bowyer http://mark.thebowyers.me.uk [EMAIL PROTECTED] `-' --------------------------------------- /"\ ...fingerprint = 7924 9E9E 7B91 225E B065 \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign 1024D/15140DC1 39D0 551D ABE6 1514 0DC1 X Against HTML Mail -------------------------------------------- / \ GOOSECRUIVES (pl. n. archaic) A pair of wooden trousers worn by poultry-keepers in the Middle Ages. ------------------------------------------------------- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start reading now. http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=6595&alloc_id=14396&op=click _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
