On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:56:31 +0100 Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Am Thu, 26 Jan 2006 12:56:47 -0500 schrieb Michael Jennings: > > > [...] > > I have said this many, many times. No one cares. So don't waste your > > breath. Most of them just pick random 'e' words off a list because > > they're cool and don't give a shit whether or not it makes sense to > > name an app with that word. > > I'm very happy that other people think the same about this topic. > Currently the E17 user base is not really small, but I think it'll > really grow if a first stable is released. But what do users think if > they walk through the menu and see applications like "entropy"? (It's a > really nice application, so no flame about the app! And I know entropy > is in proto, so not offical supported, but anyway...) they won't - because none of these apps set up a menu entry. in fact when e17 is released you will ONLY see a release of: eet evas ecore embryo edje enlightenment ... that's it. anything else is up to the authors OF that application to release themselves. a release means doing the spit & polish - making .eap icons or .desktop menu entry files, icon graphics, making sure the thing can build and install right, pass make distcheck, be able to install and come up correctly first time without too much hassle etc. etc. i don';t have time to do this to everything that sits in cvs - i simply don't. i am limiting my scope of work to just the above - as that is ALL that enlightenment needs to work. so really - i don't see an issue here as these extra apps are not part of "enlightenment" - they are extra applications as such that happen to share the usa of the same set of core libs enlightenment does. many of these will require a stable release of ewl, emotion, etk and other thnigs in cvs before they cant be released as such. > I know what entropy is in science. I had some courses at university > where "entropy" was on-topic. And it has *nothing* to do with a file > manager. :-) > > In gnome is geyes labeled with "Bildbetrachter" (english: Image > Viewer). And you could even come from geyes to a image viewer if think > a little about the name. .eapp files allow for an application name, a generic name AND a comment field. they all have their purposes. name: excite generic: a porn viewer comment: an image and video viewer intended to work best with porn believe it or not - e can and does display more than jst the name. here in the menu "GQView (Image Viewer)" "GIMP Image Editor (Image Editor)". there are fields and information stores for providing just exactly all of this extra information, giving peolpe freedom of creativity to name their app something unique, un-lame, funky and STILL make things usable. in e17's exebuf if i type "editor" - it will actually list anything that has "editor" in the generic or comment fields as a string - and any app name or exsecutable starting with "editor". it already works as an implicit "Search" system for apps. renaming apps is a stupid idea. providing appropriate information is a GOOD idea. > With enropy people would perhaps expect a science application or > something else. So I think we end in a situation where the menu entries > show some localized names of what the application does. Without > new E users couldn't understand only from the name what the apps do. .eap files as i said - like .desktop files, provide fields for all of these and mroe. they allow for all these strings to be translated too inside the .eap file in as many languages as u like. peolpe simply need to make use of the mechanisms already in place and being used. > regards > Andreas > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files > for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes > searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! > http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
