On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 10:41:51 -0500 Geoffrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > > On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:57:26 -0500 Geoffrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > babbled: > > > > > >> Ed Presutti wrote: > >> > >>> Geoffrey, > >>> > >>> I have a friend in sales at Monarch that might be helpful in > >>> these matters. Let me know if you need an assist. > >> > >> Well, I stopped by Monarch and inquired as to the possibility of > >> providing some sponsorship. I was informed that the marketing > >> people will only see you by appointment and that sponsorship is > >> only addressed via email. I've not heard back from the email > >> message I sent. > >> > >> Needless to say, I was quite disappointed in the whole thing. > >> Maybe we'll have better luck with another vendor. > > > > > > not overly surprising though :) > > Except for the fact that they could at least respond to the email. Not > exactly good PR or customer relations. typical company: "is there any $ in it for us? - who are these enlightenemnt people? i don't know. don't waste your time on some group of open soruce looneys. if you don't know them they don't count.". do you think the MARKETING guys at a company like a server manufacturer have a concept of the open source world beyond "Redhat" or maybe "debian" and "linux kernel" and that's about it? if they do - you are insanely lucky. these guys simply slap a debian or redhat install image on a disk and sell a piece of hardware. if they do much more than that you are VERY lucky. > The guy at the shop acted like I was putting him out as well. That's > not the way they will continue to get my business. Then again, why > worry about the small fish in the pond right? yup. small fish. if they lose 1 customer - they dont care. if u represent a massiv organisation that is buying 100's or 1000's of boxes - and they piss u off - they will care. the oss world matters little to them. they get the code one way or another. a window manager and gfx toolkit are even more irrelevant if their business is servers. not only are we irrelevant to their business - we arent even a "household name" and you have no "leverage". it sucks - i know. the only leverage u might have is with the BIG BIG BIG players where they do span LOTS of domains and the publicity is worht the tiny dent in their budget, OR unless offending you means a big enough dent in their sales. if everyone on this list decides not to buy form them - i doubt they will see a dent in their budget and even that happening is unlikely as they havent really "wronged" us. they simply havent decided to give us a few hundred or thousand dollars for free (as giving a box is a box they can't sell - thus at least worht the cost of manufacture, likely also worht its full retail price considering the special out-of-the-ordinary effort to get it to you, etc. etc.). -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 裸好多 Tokyo, Japan (東京 日本) ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=103432&bid=230486&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
