On Tue, 9 May 2006 19:26:57 +0200 muzzle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> Hi,
> I seem to understand that this mailing list is the bast place to
> report a bug so:

yup. it's definitely my preferred method.

> It seems that for some apps (like lyx k3b or skype)  the first time
> the app displays a popup window it works, but the next time the window
> gets automatically minimized and to most users it is "lost" (you can
> always open it again but it is frustrating).
> 
> (a few more details at http://edevelop.org/node/2216)
> 
> I can confirm this bug with lyx 1.4 on my pentim M laptop with debian
> unstable and packages from
> http://gefechtsdienst.de/uman/E17/repository/index.html

already know this. it's listed in the bugs/fixes in the TODO (u'll see the
reference to k3b). same bug really.

> I also have issues resizing windows, I cannot resize them by dragging
> the top of the title-bar (you can in most wm), but I wonder if this is
> a bug or a feature :)

feature. the default theme simply has no resize handle at the top - after
having observed my parents and their atrocious mouse handling abilities i
noticed in e16 they would accidentally resize windows often instead of drag.
also it gave me more space to play with in the titlebar and was a feature i
almost never used myself as well (and if i did - i could alt+middle click+drag
to resize as i knew what i was doing).

> Finally, how come E17 does not have any bug manager (bugzilla or
> else)? I find them useful (they avoid multiple bugreports and force
> the user to provide details).

i hate them. i never use them. bug reporting "web ui's" are one way buckets for
users to dump info i never read. read the TODO and BUGS files IN the code -
alone with e17 - they will get updated as bugs are noted and fixed. i abhor the
idea that i need a net connection to fix bugs. i abhor the idea that i need to
run a big fat web browser eating up most of my 1600x1200 screen (which i prefer
to fill with code) just to manage bugs. email them - and read the TODO and BUGS
files. also note - at this stage in development seeing we aren't even alpha -
we aren't actively "bothering" about bugs. thus no effort is made really to do
this. we might fix some as we go - but a lot of bugs are "unfinished
features" (thus why i was putting bugs in the TODO file so you can see
unfinished stuff AND bugs in a nice simple text file), and we kind of hope that
at this stage "average users" will just live with it and others, if they have a
bug that bothers them, will be sending patches. once we release an alpha (which
will be almost feature-complete for e17) it will be bug-hunting season and
effort in tracking/fixing bugs will happen :)

> Goodbye, hope e17 is out soon,
> 
> Emme
> 
> --
> "Aspetto un'emozione sempre piu' indefinibile" (CCCP Fedeli alla linea)
> 
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