On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:50:20 +1200 Jochen Schroeder
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:23:33 +0000 (UTC) Alec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > babbled:
> >
> >   
> >>>> I've been using powertop to reduce the number of wakeups on my laptop,  
> >>>> and currently enlightenment is top of the list at around 4 per second. 
> >>>>         
> >>> AFIAK there aren't any patches floating around, but you can change
> >>> polling intevals for modules and tweak the configs, closing all the
> >>> windows etc. 
> >> Yup, I only have the pager module enabled, no activity and no windows
> >> aside from the powertop xterm.
> >>
> >>     
> >>> I think the 3rd party net/wlan modules caused a lot more wakes than just 
> >>> 4... I'm not sure how low you can go, since I can't see less than 61
> >>> wakes from the radeon driver, but with e17 idle in xorg, I get 99% of the
> >>> time in C3. 
> >>>       
> >> True, the ipw2100 and the usb mouse cause ~4/sec each and prevent the
> >> kernel from reaching C3. With both of these gone and NoDRI for the radeon
> >> driver, I can get the kernel into C3 state most of the time with ~6-8
> >> wakeups/sec. Of this, e17 is 4/sec, hence it would be nice to find the
> >> culprit and (if possible) remove it.
> >>     
> >
> > if the mouse causes 4 interrupts/sec - this probably cause mouse events?
> > thus x wakeups and then e wakeups to get the events.
> >
> > those 4 could be:
> >
> > 1. something polling - what, i don't know, but you will need to strace
> > and/or debug and find out. as already pointed out some modules like to poll
> > - but most of them its in the 1 per second or multiple seconds between
> > polls (except cpufreq.
> > 2. it could be the result of an x client changing a property etc etc. like a
> > titlebar etc. see #1 - need to debug.
> > 3. every 10 secs e pings x clients to see if they are alive if they say
> > they do the netwm ping protocol, but if you have enough windows these pings
> > won't happen at the same time so they will be spread out based on when the
> > window came up.
> >
> >   
> Would it make sense to just have e ping all windows at the same time. 

yes. :)

> This would mean that a new window might not get pinged for almost 20s, 

actually up to 10 secs. if you ping every window that needs pinging every ping
cycle.

> but is that so bad. I think as soon as one has a large amount of windows 
> open (which I have all the time, hell why not use all those virtual 
> desktops :)) this method would be better even if the polling was reduced 
> to 5s. I don't know how feasible this is and I know you have a lot more 
> important things on your plate it's just an idea.

it is feasible - just needs doing. :) it's not that hard actually.

> > i share your desire to reduce this, though 4/sec is really minimal when you
> > think about it :)
> >
> >   
> I agree. Sony disables the hpet timer in bios and don't put an option in 
> to enable it. I have ~ 100 wakeups/s just caused by the kernel because 
> of this.

hahahaha - poor bugger. so e is the least of your problems then :(

> <rant>
> The Sony bios really sucks. They have a bloody option to enable/disable 
> a bios splash screen, but both hpet and virualization support are 
> disabled and no way of enabling them.  This is on an vaio sz, so their 
> business line laptops.
> </rant>
> 
> Jochen
> 
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