How do most people have E working together with other session-manager-desktop regimes like KDE, Gnome, or XFCE? At the current time, some stuff just doesn't work right if only E is running. Various media programs are starting to assume you are running either KDE or Gnome where settings are controlled.
Example: Ever notice your fonts in Firefox get all messed up after some movie programs close? That happens if you are not running a gnome-settings daemon. Example: In Fedora 8, there is this "pulseaudio" framework. A lot of people complain about it in the fedora-list, say it is not ready for prime time. I don't really know/care, as long as sound works. Anyway, iIn KDE, I couldn't hear any mplayer sound. After wrestling with it, I learned I had to install a package kde-settings-pulseaudio and turn on the avahi service in order to get sound to work. In order to get sound to work in Gnome, I had to install alsa-plugins-pulseaudio. Now I notice when I try to use mplayer in E I have no sound when playing flv files and when I try to use vlc I see terminal output about pulseaudio rejecting access to devices. Example: When I'm in E, the menu does not have options to shutown, suspend, or restart. When I run "enlightenment_start" in a terminal, I see messages which indicate that these things are unavailable. So I need a gnome or KDE menu. I started experimenting to see if I can get E to run as "just a window manager, not a session manager" on top of Gnome. KDE makes it really tough to kill kwin, but Gnome leaves a little opening. In case others wonder how this can be done, in Gnome, start a terminal (to use later), then choose System->Preferences->Personal->Sessions, and in the 2nd tab, find "metacity" and change it from "restart" to "normal" and then apply that, then remove metacity from the session. Window decorations should vanish, but your terminal should still be there. In the terminal, type enlightenment_start. If it runs, then in the session manager thing, go to the 3rd tab and hit the button to "save current programs in the session". As far as I can tell, this is working, for the most part. Gnome's workspace pager can't understand E's workspace management. Gnome just shows one workspace, which there are really 8. But the E shelf runs, and the pager in there is accurate. I have not yet seen any keyboard conflicts between E and Gnome, but I won't be surprised if I find some. I wonder what your experience is when you try to use E together with those other environments. Anybody succeed with KDE? PJ -- Paul E. Johnson Professor, Political Science University of Kansas ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
