On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 21:54:07 +0100, Dennis Nezic  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I posted a couple of months ago about this issue (end of august), and
> still haven't managed to resolve it :P. So, to recap:
>
> * No keybindings of "special keys" work on my acer laptop keyboard
> (Option "XkbModel" "acer_ferrari4k") like XF86Mail, EuroSign, when
> e16 FIRST starts up--but they do with 'eesh restart'. This suggests that
> the problem is not with my configuration, but with the way e16 "grabs"
> control of the keyboard; perhaps a timing issue. Keybindings of
> "normal" keys always work. It should be noted that the special keys are
> recognized (xev)--just not bound.
>
> * An interesting anomaly is the normal 'dollar' symbol. My laptop has
> another separate key just for it, in addition to the normal one above
> the '4' key. But if I make a keybinding to 'dollar', it will trigger
> when I press '4' (not Shift-4). This problem of having the
> "shift-level" symbol being interpreted as the "first level" only exists
> with this duplicated dollar symbol, and not with others like 'at' or
> 'numbersign'. If I remove 'dollar' from my bindings.cfg, the '4' key is
> once again interpreted as '4', and not the key-bound dollar, which
> suggests that the problem has something to do with e16's key binding
> mechanism.
>
> * Most interesting of all, starting e16 with null theme (removing the
> theme folders; eesh theme says Name: (null)) makes the "special key"
> bindings work! This suggests that the bug has something to do with
> e16--even though it was only when I upgraded X (or one of X's keyboard
> modules) that the problem started. How can the keybinding process
> possibly differ if no theme is present versus if a theme is loaded??
>
Timing?
Don't you get the "...mostly pointless..." screen where you have to  
confirm?
Btw. as of 0.16.8.14 (IIRC) you can run "without" a theme using option "-t  
-" (i.e. no need to trash the theme directories).

> In other words, there's something about having no theme, or restarting
> e16, that makes things work--or something about initially loading a
> theme that breaks key bindings. I don't know enough about X or e16
> keybinding internals to put all these pieces of the puzzle together.
> Hopefully someone else might?
>
Could it be something with keyboard mapping changing during startup, maybe  
related to the new X-server hotplug stuff?
You could try adding a delay between starting the server and starting e16,  
e.g. add "sleep 2" in some startup script.

/Kim

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