On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 22:06 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 21:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 15:39 -0400, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
> > > I'm a multi-boot/multi-desktop user. I've always got at least three linux
> > > ditros installed on which I try to get both e16 & e17 as well as xfce and
> > > occasionaly kde desktops installed. Though I'm not likely to install one
> > > that cant't be had via the distro's package management system. 
> > > 
> > > My PC has an integrated nvidia card which doesn't respond well to the open
> > > source drivers. So I use a proprietary one.
> > > 
> > > I'm also a dedicated startx user who can't stand gui login screens. I boot
> > > to a virtual console (such as traditionally found at runlevel 3) And 
> > > when/if
> > > I'm ready to use a gui, I copy the appropriate file to ~/.xinitrc... 
> > > Since I
> > > don't do well with fine print I tend to use vga=normal so that my console
> > > screens are easy to deal with. This results in a default xserver screen
> > > mode of 1280x1024, which with kde, xfce and e17 I can set to the 1024x786
> > > that works out well for my eyes.
> > > 
> > > However if e16 has a screen resolution tool, I can't find it. I think the
> > > traditional way to overide the default screen resolution was to edit the
> > > mode line(s) in the xorg.conf... I'm no expert at configuring an xorg.conf
> > > however. But if I found a line in my /etc/X11/xorg.conf like this:
> > > 
> > > Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" 
> > > "480x360" "320x240"
> > > 
> > > I'd try changing it to this:
> > > 
> > > Modes "1024x768" "1280x1024" "1152x864" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" 
> > > "480x360" "320x240"
> > > 
> > > Unfortunately of all my installed linux only PCLinuxOS has any such mode
> > > lines in the /etc/X11/xorg.conf... And PCLinuxOS doesn't have e16 in their
> > > repo. The xorg.conf found in my Arch and Xubuntu installations don't seem
> > > to use such lines, And my OpenSuSE 11.3 doesn't have an 
> > > /etc/X11/xorg.conf,
> > > but appears to use a system of /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/*.conf files instead.
> > > None of which currently contain any mode lines like the above. 
> > > 
> > > Could sombody tell me how I can get e16 to use a screen resolution of
> > > 1024x768 instead of 1280x1024????
> > > 
> > > I suppose I could try adding the mode line to the current screen sections
> > > of Arch's and Xubuntu's xorg.conf, right after the depth line of each 
> > > 'Subsection "Display"' within it. Maybe that would work but I haven't a 
> > > clue
> > > what to do for the OpenSuSE one that doesn't seem to use an xorg.conf. I
> > > mean it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d screen.conf only says:
> > > 
> > > Section "Screen"                                                          
> > >   
> > >   Identifier "Default Screen"                                             
> > >   
> > >                                                                           
> > >   
> > >   Device "Default Device"                                                 
> > >   
> > >                                                                           
> > >   
> > >   ## Doesn't help for radeon/radeonhd drivers; use magic in               
> > >   
> > >   ## 50-device.conf instead                                               
> > >   
> > >   Monitor "Default Monitor"                                               
> > >   
> > >                                                                           
> > >   
> > > EndSection
> > > 
> > > So if the above concept of inserting mode lines in the xorg.conf
> > > files works, Where would I put the mode line for the OpenSuSE's
> > > xorg.conf.d set up? Or is there a different method I should know about???
> > 
> > 
> > Hahaha :D
> > 
> > I still run openSUSE 11.2 and used sax to give me the needed xorg.conf
> > lines for my Ubuntu installs, that came with this new, annoying
> > configurations.
> > 
> > Just 2 cents, to keep it easy, install a small Suse 11.2 or earlier
> > openSUSE, run sax and add the result to your other Linux, with some
> > tweaking, you can't copy it, but you'll be able to merge it manually.
> > 
> > AFAIK there are no xorg.conf online calculators able to give the needed
> > information.
> > 
> > Phew, good to know, that I should keep my xorg.conf's, resp. to keep
> > openSUSE 11.2 :D.
> > 
> > I hate this new Linux X style that makes Linux for this thing more
> > annoying than even Windows is. I'm a tube monitor user, because I prefer
> > it to displays, when doing artwork and there are additional issues, if
> > you need to set up the frequencies for an old tube monitor, that still
> > has got a better quality regarding to colours.
> > 
> > Bad, that Linux goes this new way, for the X configuration.
> > 
> > GDM, KDM and frame based desktops, e.g. ION, sometimes need a good
> > xorg.conf, whereas DEs like KDE and GNOME sometimes are able to do
> > individual settings, anyway, very often with bad limitations.
> > 
> > I wonder if those Linux coders do really work with their distros.
> > 
> > So, it's not an E issue, but a modern distribution issue.
> > 
> > Again, Suse 11.2 might help you, to fix your other Linux.
> > 
> > - Ralf
> 
> PS: In addition this might help you to fix your configurations, but note
> that I didn't take care of ION and E ...
> 
> spinymouse1...@suse11-2:~> cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> # nvidia-xconfig: X configuration file generated by nvidia-xconfig
> # nvidia-xconfig:  version 1.0  (buildmeis...@builder58)  Fri Mar 12
> 02:12:40 PST 2010
> 
> # /.../
> # SaX generated X11 config file
> # Created on: 2009-12-17T15:07:50+0100.
> #
> # Version: 8.1
> # Contact: Marcus Schaefer <[email protected]>, 2005
> # Contact: SaX-User list
> <https://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/sax-users>
> #
> # Automatically generated by [ISaX] (8.1)
> # PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
> #
> 
> Section "ServerLayout"
>     Identifier     "Layout[all]"
>     Screen         "Screen[0]" 0 0
>     InputDevice    "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
>     InputDevice    "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
>     Option         "Clone" "off"
>     Option         "Xinerama" "off"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Files"
>     InputDevices      "/dev/gpmdata"
>     InputDevices      "/dev/input/mice"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/local"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/URW"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/Speedo"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/PEX"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/latin2/Type1"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/japanese:unscaled"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/kwintv"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/uni:unscaled"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/CID"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/misc:unscaled"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/75dpi:unscaled"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/100dpi:unscaled"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/hellas/Type1"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/misc/sgi:unscaled"
>     FontPath        "/usr/share/fonts/xtest"
>     FontPath        "/opt/kde3/share/fonts"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Module"
>     Load           "dbe"
>     Load           "extmod"
>     Load           "glx"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "ServerFlags"
>     Option         "AllowMouseOpenFail" "on"
>     Option         "ZapWarning" "on"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> 
>   # Driver "kbd" will be disabled unless 'Option "AutoAddDevices"
> "off"' 
>   # is set in "ServerFlags" section. 
>     Identifier     "Keyboard[0]"
>     Driver         "kbd"
>     Option         "Protocol" "Standard"
>     Option         "XkbLayout" "de"
>     Option         "XkbModel" "microsoftpro"
>     Option         "XkbRules" "xfree86"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
> 
>   # Driver "mouse" will be disabled unless 'Option "AutoAddDevices"
> "off"' 
>   # is set in "ServerFlags" section. 
>     Identifier     "Mouse[1]"
>     Driver         "mouse"
>     Option         "Buttons" "5"
>     Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
>     Option         "Name" "ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse"
>     Option         "Protocol" "explorerps/2"
>     Option         "Vendor" "Sysp"
>     Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Modes"
>     Identifier         "Modes[0]"
>     ModeLine     "1152x864" 128.42 1152 1232 1360 1568 864 865 868 910
>     ModeLine     "1024x768" 100.19 1024 1088 1200 1376 768 769 772 809
>     ModeLine     "1024x768" 88.50 1024 1088 1200 1376 768 769 772 804
>     ModeLine     "1024x768" 76.16 1024 1080 1192 1360 768 769 772 800
>     ModeLine     "1024x768" 64.11 1024 1080 1184 1344 768 769 772 795
>     ModeLine     "1024x600" 77.36 1024 1080 1192 1360 600 601 604 632
>     ModeLine     "1024x600" 67.63 1024 1080 1184 1344 600 601 604 629
>     ModeLine     "1024x600" 58.10 1024 1072 1176 1328 600 601 604 625
>     ModeLine     "1024x600" 48.96 1024 1064 1168 1312 600 601 604 622
>     ModeLine     "800x600" 60.07 800 840 928 1056 600 601 604 632
>     ModeLine     "800x600" 53.14 800 840 928 1056 600 601 604 629
>     ModeLine     "800x600" 45.50 800 840 920 1040 600 601 604 625
>     ModeLine     "800x600" 38.22 800 832 912 1024 600 601 604 622
>     ModeLine     "768x576" 55.94 768 816 896 1024 576 577 580 607
>     ModeLine     "768x576" 48.71 768 808 888 1008 576 577 580 604
>     ModeLine     "768x576" 41.66 768 800 880 992 576 577 580 600
>     ModeLine     "768x576" 34.96 768 792 872 976 576 577 580 597
>     ModeLine     "640x480" 37.89 640 672 736 832 480 481 484 506
>     ModeLine     "640x480" 33.48 640 672 736 832 480 481 484 503
>     ModeLine     "640x480" 28.56 640 664 728 816 480 481 484 500
>     ModeLine     "640x480" 23.86 640 656 720 800 480 481 484 497
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
>     Identifier     "Monitor[0]"
>     VendorName     "MEDION"
>     ModelName      "MD1998LM"
>     UseModes       "Modes[0]"
>     DisplaySize     305    230
>     HorizSync       29.0 - 98.0
>     VertRefresh     50.0 - 120.0
>     Option         "DPMS"
>     Option         "PreferredMode" "1152x864"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Device"
> 
>  #BoardName    "Radeon X1200"
>  #Driver       "radeonhd"
>     Identifier     "Device[0]"
>     Driver         "nvidia"
>     VendorName     "NVidia"
>     BoardName      "GeForce 7300 SE"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Screen"
>     Identifier     "Screen[0]"
>     Device         "Device[0]"
>     Monitor        "Monitor[0]"
>     DefaultDepth    24
>     Option         "DRI"
>     Option         "monitor-VGA_1" "Monitor[0]"
>  #VendorName   "ATI"
>     SubSection     "Display"
>         Virtual     3840 1200
>         Depth       15
>         Modes      "1152x864" "1024x768" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576"
> "640x480"
>     EndSubSection
>     SubSection     "Display"
>         Virtual     3840 1200
>         Depth       16
>         Modes      "1152x864" "1024x768" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576"
> "640x480"
>     EndSubSection
>     SubSection     "Display"
>         Virtual     3840 1200
>         Depth       24
>         Modes      "1152x864" "1024x768" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576"
> "640x480"
>     EndSubSection
>     SubSection     "Display"
>         Virtual     3840 1200
>         Depth       8
>         Modes      "1152x864" "1024x768" "1024x600" "800x600" "768x576"
> "640x480"
>     EndSubSection
> EndSection
> 
> spinymouse1...@suse11-2:~> cat /media/studio3.3/etc/X11/xorg.conf
> Section "ServerLayout"
>     Identifier     "Layout0"
>     Screen      0  "Screen0"
>     InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
>     InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>     Identifier     "Mouse0"
>     Driver         "mouse"
>     Option         "Protocol" "auto"
>     Option         "Device" "/dev/psaux"
>     Option         "Emulate3Buttons" "no"
>     Option         "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>     Identifier     "Keyboard0"
>     Driver         "kbd"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Monitor"
>   DisplaySize   305 230
>   HorizSync     29-98
>   Identifier    "Monitor0"
>   Modelname   "Plug 'n' Play"
>   Vendorname  "Plug 'n' Play"
>   VertRefresh   50-120
>   modeline    "1152x864" 128.42 1152 1232 1360 1568 864 865 868 910
>   Gamma       1.0
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Device"
>     Identifier     "Device0"
>    #Driver         "nv"
>     Driver         "nvidia"
>     VendorName     "NVIDIA Corporation"
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Screen"
>     Identifier     "Screen0"
>     Device         "Device0"
>     Monitor        "Monitor0"
>     DefaultDepth    24
>     SubSection     "Display"
>       Depth   24
>       Modes      "1152x864"
>        #Virtual    3840 1200
>     EndSubSection
> EndSection
> 
> Section "Module"
>     Load           "dbe"
>     Load           "extmod"
>     Load           "glx"
> EndSection
> spinymouse1...@suse11-2:~>

64 Studio is, I guess Ubuntu Karmic, I guess for Hardy you need to
change additional lines to get it for GDM and every DE, but AFAIK for
Karmic it should work for most DEs, while I didn't run E there.



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