Wow, wow, wow! The only quote that comes to mind... "Stupid is as stupid does."
~Jeff Hoogland On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>wrote: > and another one of his golden nuggets. > > Begin chunk 'o stuff: > > Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:20:11 -0700 (PDT) > From: Harry <isigo...@yahoo.com> > To: Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > Subject: Re: [e-users] How to disable Desktop flipping > > > You know something, for someone claiming to be the sole owner of a software > package already on the fringes of crossing the threshold from exotic to > becoming bizarre in the tininess of its user community, you put and awful > lot > of effort into ticking of the few users left with your self-righteousnesses > and > stubborn insistence that you are right and everybody else is wrong. > > I now understand why Enlightenment has such a small following. > With folks like you ru(i)nning this mailing list, its a miracle all and of > itself that there is still anybody left putting up with nonsense. > > Starting a flame war over some version numbering, what insanity ! > > My advise to you, take a cold shower before you jump on that bandwagon > again :-( > > > > --- On Wed, 3/9/11, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > From: Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > Subject: Re: [e-users] How to disable Desktop flipping > > To: "Harry" <isigo...@yahoo.com> > > Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 8:15 AM > > On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 07:42:44 -0800 > > (PST) Harry <isigo...@yahoo.com> > > said: > > > > > Listen Mr. I DON'T CARE (nothing aggressive here) if > > you call yourself the > > > emperor of China. I for one highly doubt that you got > > any valid copyright > > > > i have to laugh at this. you know i started enlightenment > > in 1996? first > > release - dr-0.1 in 1997? you are now actually being most > > insulting by saying > > that i actually haven't got anything to do with the project > > i founded and whose > > code i have written the vast majority for. perhaps you > > should do a little bit > > of study... just for your information - check the about > > dialog.. or AUTHORS > > file... you'll see me listed as the FIRST person there: > > > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/e/AUTHORS > > > > or for that matter almost all of the libraries behind it: > > > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/ecore/AUTHORS > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/edje/AUTHORS > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/eet/AUTHORS > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/embryo/AUTHORS > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/evas/AUTHORS > > ... i can go on. > > > > > claim on enlightenment. If you say you do, then I > > highly advise you to sue > > > those other sites I mentioned (and the countless other > > ones who claim they've > > > got an E17 distro for download). > > > > why would i do that? it's distributed under a license that > > allows them to do > > this. they have not violated any legally binding agreement. > > i suggest you read > > the COPYING file distributed with enlightenment, or to make > > your life a little > > easier: > > > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/e/COPYING > > > > > Because by law a copyright not being enforced if > > violated becomes void. > > > > actually that's entirely incorrect. that is trademark law, > > not copyright law. > > > > > You can make any claim you won't about "those other > > distros" or your own > > > important role in Enlightenment. Fact is that E17 is > > out there, ready for > > > download and I've never stumbled upon your name in > > connection with any E > > > > http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=news/show&l=en&news_id=28 > > > > my god.. that's my name... having written the main and > > latest news item on > > enlightenment.org's website. > > > > > distro I had running on my system before (and > > specially in OpenSUSE they tend > > > > i dont work on ANY distro (i have worked on debian and > > worked for redhat > > before), but i work on - i founded enlightenment. should i > > bring this up on > > the public mailing list and have the entire list verify > > this in addition the > > application's about dialog right in front of you, the > > upstream source code > > trees etc. etc.? > > > > > to list the names of "single owners" of SW distros in > > the comment section). > > > > please. just please, bring up the about dialog for your > > install of E. be it > > e16, e17 or go back in time all the way to E 0.1 if you > > wish to hunt down such > > source. of course if you don't want to - then i can't make > > you, but you do > > continue to look entirely silly saying what you do. in > > fact... i dare you. mail > > the enlightenment users or devel list... and just ask. or > > for that matter.. > > just make your bold claim that i have nothing to do with > > E... > > > > > So as far as I am concerned you're just someone > > looking to start a flame war > > > with me, over something that wasn't even an issue in > > my posts. > > > > no - what i said is that you claim there is an E17... your > > quote: > > > > > > > > > > Yet another setting I don't > > know how to "rescue" over > > > > > > > from E16.999 to E17. > > > > and i said: > > > > > > > > > what e17? news to me. e is still > > at 0.16.999.XXX > > > > how is that a flame war? you asked for the impossible. you > > are asking how to > > "rescue" settings from 0.16.999 to E17 when E17 doesnt even > > EXIST. it's still > > 0.16.999.XXX > > > > > If I have to make a choice between countless web sites > > with E17 ready for > > > download and your claims, well then I know where I > > have to put my bets down. > > > > > > And now I truly, really have more important things to > > do in life. > > > > > > So have a nice day (you see, nothing aggressive > > here)! > > > > neither in my emails. so... right now i'd dearly liek you > > to actuallly check > > the facts - just LOOK at the sourcecode. just LOOK at the > > about dialog. it HAS > > the enlightenment version inside it. left click on the > > desktop and in the menu: > > enlightenment->about - it's that simple. it's 0.16.xxxx > > (unless whoever > > distributed it to you patched it to be a version that was > > never released). and > > once you take a look and realize you were wrong - i'd > > dearly love an apology. > > you basically just told jrr tolkein he didn't write lord of > > the rings and has no > > place in telling you anything about it because the local > > newspaper said > > something different. that's the equivalent. it's rather > > insulting to be told > > that when the other party involved hasnt even done any > > semmblance of fact > > checking. > > > > > --- On Wed, 3/9/11, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > > > Subject: Re: [e-users] How to disable Desktop > > flipping > > > > To: "Harry" <isigo...@yahoo.com> > > > > Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 6:56 AM > > > > On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 06:20:09 -0800 > > > > (PST) Harry <isigo...@yahoo.com> > > > > said: > > > > > > > > i'm cool.... and i'm the founder of this project, > > lead > > > > developer and well, i'm > > > > the one who calls the calls "release". i don't > > care what > > > > those sites say - > > > > enlightenment.org has NO download for or > > announcement for > > > > it's release because > > > > it never WAS released. it's still being worked on > > in our > > > > SVN repository. if you > > > > think it's released then you are thinking > > incorrectly. it's > > > > the same thing > > > > as thinking the world if flat just because a > > bunch of > > > > people say it is "out > > > > there on the internet". the source - where e17 > > comes from > > > > is telling you that > > > > it is STILL at 0.16.999. > > > > > > > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/e/configure.ac > > > > > > > > there is our source. the configure.ac - see the > > top. 0 16 > > > > and 999 - major, > > > > minor and micro version. last change to that > > file... 12 > > > > days ago. > > > > > > > > http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/ > > > > > > > > no release of enlightenment. note the releases > > dir is named > > > > just that. > > > > releases. we have a SNAPSHOTS dir: > > > > > > > > http://download.enlightenment.org/snapshots/2010-12-03/ > > > > > > > > that is the last snapshot of enlightenment from > > svn > > > > development - but not a > > > > release of e17. note the version is > > 0.16.9999.xxxxx. > > > > > > > > btw. there is nothing aggressive about the tone > > of my > > > > emails. they are plain > > > > simple and factual. they aren't using fluffy > > language. do i > > > > have to put a > > > > smiley on every line just to NOT be aggressive? > > please, > > > > re-read the emails > > > > and actually check the source before quoting > > random > > > > websites. > > > > > > > > > How about you cool it and check out first > > what's > > > > really happening "out there"? > > > > > > > > > > http://e17-stuff.org/ > > > > > http://www.golem.de/1011/79506.html > > > > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/E17 > > > > > Quote: > > > > > "E17 is the development release 17 (DR17) of > > the > > > > Enlightenment Desktop > > > > > Environment. It comprises both the > > Enlightenment > > > > window manager and > > > > > Enlightenment Foundation Libraries (EFL), > > which > > > > provide additional desktop > > > > > environment features such as a toolkit, > > object canvas, > > > > and abstracted > > > > > objects. E17 has been under development > > since 2005, > > > > but in February 2011 the > > > > > core EFLs saw their first stable 1.0 > > release." > > > > :Endquote > > > > > > > > > > I'm really not sure what YOU are talking > > about and > > > > whom YOU are talking for, > > > > > as plenty of other folks in the Internet > > seem to know > > > > that E17 is out there > > > > > and does exist as an installable beta > > release. > > > > > > > > > > I really wish you'd change the aggressive > > tone of your > > > > e-mails or stop > > > > > sending me mails altogether. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > From: Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [e-users] How to disable > > Desktop > > > > flipping > > > > > > To: "Harry" <isigo...@yahoo.com> > > > > > > Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 12:30 > > AM > > > > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:17:51 -0800 > > > > > > (PST) Harry <isigo...@yahoo.com> > > > > > > said: > > > > > > > > > > > > well... WE (enlightenent.org) have NOT > > released e > > > > 0.17 - so > > > > > > whatever suse have > > > > > > released has nothing to do with us. we > > are still > > > > > > 0.16.999.XXXXX. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nope, E17 is now available as a > > beta > > > > download (at > > > > > > least for OpenSuse 11.3 on > > > > > > > onwards). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Its the real deal and definetely > > NOT > > > > 16.999.xxx > > > > > > anymore! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 2/26/11, Carsten > > Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [e-users] How to > > disable > > > > Desktop > > > > > > flipping > > > > > > > > To: "Harry" <isigo...@yahoo.com> > > > > > > > > Cc: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > Date: Saturday, February 26, > > 2011, 2:37 > > > > AM > > > > > > > > On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 02:49:53 > > -0800 > > > > > > > > (PST) Harry <isigo...@yahoo.com> > > > > > > > > said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello World, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet another setting I > > don't know > > > > how to > > > > > > "rescue" over > > > > > > > > from E16.999 to E17. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what e17? news to me. e is > > still at > > > > 0.16.999.XXX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to disable the > > Desktop > > > > flipping, that > > > > > > happens > > > > > > > > every time the cursor > > > > > > > > > reaches the edge of the > > screen. > > > > That truly > > > > > > annoys me, > > > > > > > > but I don't know how to > > > > > > > > > stop that in E17. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > D.D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > Free Software Download: > > Index, > > > > Search & > > > > > > Analyze > > > > > > > > Logs and other IT data in > > > > > > > > > Real-Time with Splunk. > > Collect, > > > > index and > > > > > > harness all > > > > > > > > the fast moving IT data > > > > > > > > > generated by your > > applications, > > > > servers and > > > > > > devices > > > > > > > > whether physical, virtual > > > > > > > > > or in the cloud. > > Deliver > > > > compliance at lower > > > > > > cost and > > > > > > > > gain new business > > > > > > > > > insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > enlightenment-users > > mailing list > > > > > > > > > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > ------------- Codito, ergo > > sum - "I > > > > code, > > > > > > therefore I am" > > > > > > > > -------------- > > > > > > > > The Rasterman (Carsten > > Haitzler) > > > > ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I > > code, > > > > therefore I am" > > > > > > -------------- > > > > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) > > ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, > > therefore I am" > > > > -------------- > > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > > -------------- > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Colocation vs. Managed Hosting > A question and answer guide to determining the best fit > for your organization - today and in the future. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Colocation vs. Managed Hosting A question and answer guide to determining the best fit for your organization - today and in the future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
