Stupid Question, but where can I find the xsettings module in svn ? On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 4:23 PM, hannes.janet...@gmail.com < hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Wido <wido...@gmail.com> wrote: > > First, I don't know how to code, so I can't send patches :( (sorry for > that) > > > > Second, I like more QT (as in kde) apps, so I set GTK to mimic QT by > using > > oxygen-gtk theme or qtCurve theme. > > > > I think Hannes work is awesome, I'm just saying that lot of people uses > GTK > > as well as QT apps, so why only support one type of toolkit? > > > > I know, I know, there are tons of different toolkits, but being GTK and > QT > > the two most used, I think is not fair to just include one of them 'just > > because I like it most'. > > > > I can understand if this is technically non-viable, I'm fine with that. > But > > saying 'I don't know how it works and I don't care'.....sounds kind of > > mediocre (sorry if it's sounds rude, that's not the point really) > > > > Am I wrong to think this way? > > > > As far as i can see it's not possible for e to set kde themes in > general in a sane way. with gtk you have a theme file that defines > which engine is used + all engine options. so only theme name needs to > be set. with qt you have to set a style engine that can store it's > config somewhere unknown to qt/kde (bespin e.g.) + color scheme. so > one would need to know for each engine where it stores its settings to > write its config. furthermore there is no spec which says where qt/kde > writes its config or which signal is used to tell app to update their > config. Then i dont like the idea to write to qt config files spread > all over the place, so i would suggest to ask Qt people to adopt > xsettings spec :) > > http://www.redhat.com/archives/xdg-list/2001-March/msg00003.html > http://standards.freedesktop.org/xsettings-spec/xsettings-spec-0.5.html > > > Regards, > Hannes > > > > And again, I'm not a coder, so I'm really sorry that I can't submit > patches > > to do so > > > > El 25 de septiembre de 2011 08:52, Thomas Gstädtner > > <tho...@gstaedtner.net>escribió: > > > >> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 10:06, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > >> wrote: > >> > On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 02:45:47 -0500 Jeff Hoogland > <jeffhoogl...@linux.com> > >> said: > >> > > >> > if E set this by DEFAULT (there is some qt gtk theme engine that can > use > >> gtk > >> > themes and theme engines mostly in qt), that'd be best, but i have no > >> idea how > >> > qt/kde does this... so patches accepted. > >> > > >> >> Set your QT apps to use your current GTK then _ then this is already > >> done :) > >> >> > >> >> On Saturday, September 24, 2011, Carsten Haitzler < > ras...@rasterman.com > >> > > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 00:26:08 +0200 "hannes.janet...@gmail.coms" > >> >> > <hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> said: > >> >> > > >> >> >> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 8:55 PM, Wido <wido...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> > Sorry to be a jerk....but if it's going to be 'native' support > for > >> GTK > >> >> >> > themes, shouldn't also be the same level of support for QT? > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> do you know how to tell qt to use a specific theme or to list > themes > >> >> >> available to qt? It would be good if qt could use XSettings spec. > >> >> >> actually the property i set is Net/IconThemeName so it seems to be > >> >> >> intended to work cross toolkit. though this spec seems to be only > >> used > >> >> >> by gtk.. I don't have a clue about how to do these things with qt. > >> >> >> patches welcome :) > >> >> > > >> >> > as jeff said - patches welcome. xsettings is something gtk/gnome > uses > >> and > >> >> > supports, and jeff did the footwork of implementing. now it's just > a > >> >> matter of > >> >> > glueing it into all the right spots and adding a few more config > vars > >> and > >> >> maybe > >> >> > a few widgets in the config dialogs to swizzle them. > >> >> > > >> >> > if there are qt/kde mechamisms... please send the code! :) > >> >> > > >> >> >> > I mean, not everybody is a GTK fanboy =) > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > El 24 de septiembre de 2011 02:41, Carsten Haitzler > >> >> >> > <ras...@rasterman.com>escribió: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 05:37:07 +0200 "hannes.janet...@gmail.com" > >> >> >> >> <hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> said: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Carsten Haitzler < > >> >> ras...@rasterman.com> > >> >> >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 04:37:05 +0200 " > hannes.janet...@gmail.com > >> " > >> >> >> >> > > <hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> said: > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > >> Hey, > >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > >> I've added xsettings-module to e-modules-extra. it's > pretty > >> much > >> >> proto > >> >> >> >> > >> but it does what I mostly wanted it for: > >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > >> - set global icon theme to match the one selected in e17. > >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > >> - adding 'data { "gtk-theme" "theme_name"; }' to e17 > themes > >> >> allows to > >> >> >> >> > >> automatically use a gtk theme matching e17 theme. > >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> >> > >> in config dialog one can override these options to set > themes > >> >> >> >> explicitly. > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > dude - this shouldn't be in modules-extra... it should be > in > >> core > >> >> e! :) > >> >> >> >> many > >> >> >> >> > > years ago i poked around the xsettings thing mentally > deciding > >> we > >> >> had > >> >> >> >> to add > >> >> >> >> > > this to e, but i just never got to it. > >> >> >> >> > > > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >> > yes, i would also like it to be in core when it becomes more > >> mature. > >> >> >> >> > should it go into conf_theme then? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> well the xsettings core support should not even be a module > >> >> >> >> just in e's main code. configuration - eg to provide a gtk > theme, > >> >> shoudl go > >> >> >> >> into conf_theme. the others (icon theme) are already there - > just > >> >> recycle > >> >> >> >> e's > >> >> >> >> config. i'd say the conf_theme should provide a dialog to > select > >> gtk > >> >> theme > >> >> >> >> (from installed themes on system) in a list. that's it. with > one > >> >> option > >> >> >> >> added > >> >> >> >> to the list "let enlightenment theme decide". from memory > >> xsettings > >> >> can set > >> >> >> >> up > >> >> >> >> fonts, dpi and other things too. probably something to add to > the > >> conf > >> >> >> >> scale > >> >> >> >> dialog and to conf_fonts dialog in e etc. > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -- > >> >> >> >> ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > >> >> -------------- > >> >> >> >> The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> >> >> All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is > seriously > >> >> valuable. > >> >> >> >> Why? 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And common sense. > >> > http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > enlightenment-users mailing list > >> > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > >> > > >> > >> Setting Qt to use the Gtkstyle engine is easy: just set "style=GTK+" > >> in ~/.config/Trolltech.conf > >> However, doing this properly means you have to check for available > >> engines, parsing the config, making sure there is a config and > >> probably check for a dozend race conditions. > >> > >> As qt ships with qtconfig which does the job already, I don't see why > >> to include that. > >> Also, there is not really such a thing as Qt themes (there are a > >> number of styles, but I don't think anyone has ever written an > >> additional one outside of Trolltech), if anything there are KDE themes > >> for Qt. > >> > >> Adding a link to qtconfig in the menu should be more than enough. At > >> most, adding a button "Use GTK theme for Qt" could be done, which sets > >> "style=GTK+" in the ini-style Trolltech.conf. > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously > valuable. > >> Why? It contains a definitive record of application performance, > security > >> threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes > >> sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. > >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-d2dcopy2 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> enlightenment-users mailing list > >> enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Wido > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is seriously > valuable. > > Why? 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