(fixed post and resent to list)

On Wed, Nov 07, 2012 at 05:50:38PM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > I ran:
> > /usr/bin/enlightenment_start -fake-xinerama-screen 1920x1200+0+0
> > -fake-xinerama-screen 1920x1200+1920+0 -fake-xinerama-screen 
> > 1920x1200+0+1200
> > -fake-xinerama-screen 1920x1200+1920+1200
> > 
> > But a pager in a shelf still only shows the windows for that shelf.
> > So what did the command above accomplish, or did I type it wrong?
> 
> you told e that your root window is divided up into the screens you just 
> listed
> - which is what it gext from randr or xinerama anyway.
 
Aaah, I was confused. I thought the problem was because it couldn't find
the xinerama config I used to have, but it does xrandr just fine and I
just told it what it already knew.
Ok, so I did -fake-xinerama-screen 3840x2400 
and indeed now it ignores the fact that I have 4 monitors.

It kind of worked better with e16 where I had the best of both worlds
(for me): edge resistance and control about where my shelf was.

Without breaking how you do things, if I could just drag the shelf where
it works best on my screen instead of being forced to use pre-set
locations, that would help, especially in a 2x2 screen matrix config
with xinerama fooled like I just did.

> this is how e works. if you divide your root window up into these zones then

e17 :)
(as in e16 was different and worked better for me)

> each zone has its own array of virtual desktops and switches THAT zone and no
> others. if you want to fool e into thinking you have only 1 zne then provide
> only 1 on the cmdline.
 
I understand that I seem to be a minority and I know your goal with e17
is not to make it "just like e16", so I'll respect your choices.
The workaround you gave me is not fantastic but sufficient for me.

> e automatically queries these xinerama/randr screen info and divides things 
> up.
> this is what 99.9% of people want. each division is called a "zone" as its a
> region (zone) within a root window. e's term for this root window is a
> "manager" which has a single container in it. the container has N zones. each
> zone has NxM virtual desktops. the pager you place in a shelf or desktop on a
> zone switches desktops in that zone.

I'm willing to believe that your users are happy with the new e17 way. I
guess I got so used to how I was doing it with e16 that I have a hard
time considering switching now 13 years later :)
e17 works fine on my laptop by the way since I only have one LCD. I only
noticed the changes when I upgraded my work desktop with the 2x2 screen
matrix to e17.

Either way, thanks much for the help and support and seeing e17 through.
It's been a long road indeed :)

If there is still a chance to make shelves dragable to arbitrary
positions and add some kind of in between physical screen edge
resistance without having 4 independent screens with independent
shelves, that would be fantastic though :)

Cheers,
Marc
-- 
"A mouse is a device used to point at the xterm you want to type in" - A.S.R.
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                                      .... what McDonalds is to gourmet cooking
Home page: http://marc.merlins.org/

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