On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 21:57:45 +0100 Magnus Therning <mag...@therning.org> said:
> On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 10:24:36AM +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:22:29 +0100 Magnus Therning <mag...@therning.org> > > said: > > > > > I'm very new to Enlightenment so please forgive any ignorance and > > > stupidity on my part. > > > > > > For a while now I've been running parts of LXDE together with XMonad > > > on Arch Linux, but lately I've been looking around for options to > > > LXDE. I really like what I've seen of Enlightenment, it's quick and > > > still very shiny. Of course there are some things left before it's > > > completely production ready, e.g. I can't seem to get entrance to > > > actually let me log in. Anyway, I'd like to switch to E17 but so far > > > I haven't found a way to use it together with XMonad. Which leads me > > > to sending this email. Is it possible to get the "desktop experience" > > > of E17, but swap out its window manager and use XMonad instead, in the > > > same way that LXDE lets me replace Openbox? > > > > no. enlightenment *IS A WINDOW MANAGER*. it is not gnome, or kde or > > lde or xfce... which run maybe a dozen or more processes and the mw > > is just one of them... enlightenment is a single monolithic > > process... that is wm, filemanager, desktop manager, launcher, > > panel, settings tool etc. etc. all in one. it's a vastly different > > design and philosophy to the other linux desktops. this is one of > > the reasons we can do so much with so little. > > True, but it also means it's a much less *flexible design*; it's an > all-or-nothing design. Which means it most likely isn't for me, since > I like XMonad and would like to continue using it. I do understand > the reason for the design though. actually its a very flexible design... it's just different. you modify look not by changing to a new piece of software - but by loading a module (a patch). you will find it hard to find any wm/desktop that has as many ways to configure/modify/tweak/etc. it - from modules through to themes and then your regular checkobx config options. enlightenment has been around since before gnome existed. it's started out life as a wm WITH a bunch of extras wm's simply never did themselves, and grew. e doesn't go and detail that it has a wm component and how its different from gnome or kde or whatever... because well. it is a wm. it always has been. :) > > nb - entrance is not part of enlightenment - neither is terminology > > or enjoy or eve etc. - its a separate project that happens to be > > under our banner - you can use it, or not. up to you. you can use > > any other login manager you like to use. entrace has more more > > "integration requirements:" than e does as it needs to authenticate > > users and thus have pam work in compatible ways. right now it uses > > efreet - but efreet currently in svn isn't built for a root daemon > > to run and use as it requires a dbus session bus. thisis not > > something that has been addressed at this stage as these efreet > > changes are recent. you should stick to an efreet release (1.7.3) > > and not svn if you want things to have a hope of working for you > > (until we release a new version). > > Thanks for pointing out the issues around entrance/efreet, I'll try to > keep an eye on that since I'm interested in using a few of the > E17-related items. > > /M > > -- > Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 > email: mag...@therning.org jabber: mag...@therning.org > twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus > > I invented the term Object-Oriented, and I can tell you I did not have > C++ in mind. > -- Alan Kay -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
