Hummmm, I guess you have a very good point.  I didn't knew E cursors where so 
complex, I though they were just 'imitating' X behaviour.

Still, I would do just bad copies as a X theme. X/GTK/QT apps would use them as 
they currently do. I just won't hurt that much to the eyes moving from a E 
cursor theme to an X theme.

They won't be as cool and functional as in E, but they it won't look like you 
have 2 different sets of themes which behave randomly. Did I mention that 
having 2 differen't themes *really* annoys me? :D

I will make an example, so you guys don't think I'm just whinning (ok, maybe I 
am =D ). I use google chrome (not chromium, but chrome). Inside the browser, I 
get all X cursors, so I get ugly arrow, ugly hand-on-click, ugly type-writter, 
ugly resizes. I would rather have bad E cursors copies (even if they are just 
animated gif) that ugly X cursors :D

On Saturday February 2 2013 23:00:38 David Seikel escribió:
> On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 22:19:34 -0300 Wido <wido...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I know that E mouse works differently. Maybe I didn't explained
> > properly.
> > 
> > What I ment is it would be possible to allow E (somehow, with lot of
> > black magic) replicate it's cursors to X cursors. As in create gifs
> > or png or whatever X use for current E  theme, and move that into an
> > X theme. 
> 
> It would not be a replication, it would be a pale imitation.  The point
> raster was making is that E mouse pointers are active scripted objects,
> which is very far away from being a simple set of looped static
> images.  Sure you could grab a static image of on E cursor at some
> point during it's scripted running, but at what points do you do this
> grabbing?  Each scripted E cursor object is different, and can be
> entirely arbitrary, making it almost impossible to automatically pick
> suitable points that are useful to make a series of image grabs.
> 
> So the results are likely to be really crap, and just not worth the
> effort of creating that black magic.  Much better results could be done
> by the theme author picking those points carefully and making their own
> matching X cursor theme.  Such theme authors might be making matching
> GTK / QT / whatever themes as well, but I would guess that most don't.
> 
> > I know, it sounds horrible and I'm not suggesting to do that, is just
> > a quick 'n dirt hack to explain what I would like E to do =)
> > 
> > On Saturday February 2 2013 02:56:42 Carsten Haitzler escribió:
> > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 18:00:09 +0000 Stefano <pietran...@gmail.com>
> > > said:
> > > 
> > > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:28:53 -0300, you wrote:
> > > > >Hummm, the only thing that REALLY bothers me is not having an X
> > > > >paired cursor theme. That, and the fact that some GTK/QT apps
> > > > >change the E cursor to X cursor...that REALLY annoys me.
> > > > >
> > > > >Would it be possible to export current E mouse theme to ALSO be
> > > > >X mouse theme?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > +1
> > > > 
> > > > same for me.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks,
> > > 
> > > this is exceedingly hd, because x cursor themems are far more
> > > primitvie. e17 literallyhas an edje object for the cursor and emits
> > > information to it via signals.. xcursors are static images or a
> > > simple set of N images that loop. that's all tey can do.
> 
> 


Wido
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