Hi Dominic,

did you found some more info on this? 
I got similar problems on FreeBSD stable/10. 

It just occasionaly crashes with similar memory errors.

I want to seek into it more, but would be helpful if you got some
results.

Robert. 


On Thu, 05 Sep 2013 09:31:18 +0200
Dominic Fandrey <kamik...@bsdforen.de> wrote:

> On 04/09/2013 01:52, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
> > On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 17:35:03 +0200 Dominic Fandrey
> > <kamik...@bsdforen.de> said:
> > 
> >> E17 frequently gets stuck in "PAUSE !", when closing a window. Most
> >> frequently, but not exclusively, thunderbird -compose windows.
> >>
> >> Tail of the .xsession-errors file:
> >> ESTART: 0.22645 [0.00001] - E_Shelf Config Update
> >> ESTART: 0.22883 [0.00237] - E_Shelf Config Update Done
> >> ESTART: 0.22884 [0.00002] - Manage all windows
> >> ESTART: 0.23061 [0.00177] - MAIN LOOP AT LAST
> >> ESTART: 0.50552 [0.27490] - DELAYED MODULE LOAD: gadman
> >> ESTART: 0.50582 [0.00030] - SLEEP
> >> EINA: Data at address 0x806c02f74 is invalid. Replacing with zero
> >> page. PAUSE !
> > 
> > that "data address xxx is invalid" line... is a very important
> > thing. that's a sigbus. a sigbus is when an app has a perfectly
> > valid bit of memory and tries to access it... BUT... it's
> > inaccessible. this happens for 2 reasons. 1 - literally out of
> > memory.
> 
> Definitely not. The system isn't under any kind of strain, there is
> plenty of RAM and SWAP to go around and the system would start
> killing processes before something like that happened.
> 
> > the linux kernel overallocates by default - that means
> > it hands out memory that it doesn't have, assuming apps dont use it
> > all. it can happen where they do and then a valid allocation can
> > get a sigbus, but the more common case i know of is... mmaped i/o.
> > if the filesystem has corruption ...
> 
> I think at a time when I was frequently trying to reproduce a certain
> panic in order to generate a useful kernel dump ... likely cause.
> 
> > now this is actually e_start's problem... it shouldnt consider a
> > sigbus a normal crash offense.
> 
> And it actually seems unrelated to the problem. I just had another
> round. Only this time I ran startx inside tmux, so I got a complete
> record of the session without running into the xdm auth issue when
> trying to restart e17.
> 
> There's lots of output by programs like firefox and then there's a
> PAUSE ! line followed by a segfault (that one is new) and all the
> processes complain and terminate.
> 


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