I had been experiencing the f1 error. Also complete freezes where I had 
to press alt + f1 to get into a console and kill everything. Most often, 
applications would crash in tiled mode if I tried to move them around.

After I sent my message to the list, I re-installed Enlightenment using 
synaptic and checked a few things that were not initially installed, but 
sounded important. Fortunately my configuration was saved. I know 
something is different. Prior to the re-install, every time I right 
clicked an image and select Shotwell my system would completely freeze 
and I would have to go into a console, sometimes hit the power button. 
That problem is gone after the re-install so I am hopeful.

The lack of power options is still nagging though.

You mentioned 18.2. Is that the latest because it's what I am running.

For the record it's an NVIDIA GT 610 with the latest 331.2 drivers and 
kernel 3.12.6

If problems return, I will better document them.

Thanks,

William





On 01/28/2014 07:27 AM, Dave wrote:
>   Hi William.  I find E18 to be more stable than E17, so I'd recommend you
> stick with that.
>
>   As for crashes, are you talking about WM crashes, where you're prompted to
> hit F1 to restart?  Or are you talking about Linux kernel crashes?  In which
> case, it could be the video driver responsible.
>
>   When diagnosing a crash, it's usually helpful to get a list of your OS,
> video hardware, video driver, hmmm, maybe kernel version as well.  Any
> relevent error messages would be nice too.  Check out your .xsession-errors
> file for those.
>
>   If you can replicate the crash consistently, then give us the steps to do
> so, and we'll see if we can do it as well.
>
>   Honestly, I'm a bit surprised that E18 is crashing.  I've been using it for
> ... checking the datestamp on the executable ... a month?  No, wait, that's
> E18.2.  I used a few alpha releases months before that, and never had a
> crash.  Then again, I've never used the suspend feature, so if that's what's
> triggering the instability, it's out of my field of experience.
>
>   Updates?  Well, haven't played with this myself, but looking at the source
> code, seems like it's a base of 1 hour, multiplied by some "later" config
> number.  No idea about this, as I haven't enabled the check, and I can't find
> any place to configure it in the settings.
>
>   I know what you mean about Enlightenment.  I've tweaked it to suit my style
> and taste.  It works so well, I can't imagine using anything else.  To me,
> other windowing systems feel clunky and inconvenient.
>
>   Cheers,
>   dave.k
>
>
>   In the year 2014, of the month of January, on the 28th day, William wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I have been following the Enlightenment project since day one. However,
>> I have not actually used it in over a decade - until now. Perhaps I was
>> feeling nostalgic, but for whatever reason I recently decided to take
>> E18 for a spin. I turns out that I absolutely love it, and it has pretty
>> much taken over as my DE. Unfortunately I didn't research what I was
>> getting into, and honestly at the time was expecting to take a look and
>> then toss it for my usual system. So it turns E18 is a bit on the buggy
>> side with the occasional application and complete system crashes along
>> misc. odd behavior and most of the power options not available. At one
>> point I tried to downgrade to E17 (Ubuntu 12.04 based system), but that
>> did not go well. I have everything set up the way I want and will
>> subscribe to your other lists to keep track of development. I have
>> developed something of a "golden path" work flow that greatly minimizes
>> crashes, but I wondering if there is any way at all to get the power
>> options working. It would be nice to suspend my computer without closing
>> everything and backing out to lightdm.
>>
>> Also, when I installed E18, I allowed it to check for updates. What is
>> the frequency of checks, and is there a system update function I should
>> be manually running from time to time?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> William
>>
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