On Mon, 12 Jan 2015 01:47:16 -0200 Martinx - ジェームズ <[email protected]> said:
> On 6 January 2015 at 05:48, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]> wrote: > > ..... > > > > Hey Raster! > > > > > > I'm curious about something, it might be totally off-topic, but I need > > > to ask... Because I think you're the right person to ask this... > > > > > > When I'm using KVM Virtual Machines, under ANY Window Manager / DE > > > (E19, Unity, KDE, GNOME), when it grabs the keyboard+mouse, sometimes, > it > > > becomes a huge mess! > > > > yes - correct. these emulators (qemu, vmware, etc.) do this in order to > get the > > full keyboard with nothing taken away from them. they can be unsociable in > > doing this - correct. > > > > > I mean, it does not release the mouse, even after pressing "ctrl+alt" > > > (KVM's command release it) and then, I need to go to "ctrl+alt+F1" and > > > "kill kvm". > > > > > > This problem appear specially when KVM becomes too slow or freezes. > > > > > > Will that kind of "bad behavior" be changed when using E on top of > Wayland?! > > > > well currently it will as wayland provides no mechanism to grab the mouse > > and/or keyboard like this. it would require an extension to wayland > protocol to > > do this (last i looked). but even if we had such a protocol (and something > > simialr will eventually turn up due to needs), the compositor - that is e, > > still gets all the input (mouse and kbd etc.) and thus it could still use > some > > emergency keybindings like ctrl+alt+x to close the window, or maybe some > > special keybinding to "break a grab". it could allow alt+tab to switch > away and > > end the grab. it's up to e to decide what to do here and/or config > > AWESOME!! That's all I needed to hear! Thank you! > > I can't wait to kick Xorg and move to a Wayland-Only Desktop, powered by E, > of course... ^_^ > > I'll start testing EFL + E (git) with Wayland 1.6 ASAP. > > BTW, just out of curiosity, do you know when (more or less, mid 2015? 2016? > 2017?) we'll be able to run a Wayland-Only Enlightenment DE plus Google > Chrome (or Firefox) with XWayland or something like that? sometime after developers use it all day, every day themselves :) > > > I mean, for example, when I'm using OSX (with XQuartz installed), and > > > I remotely connect into a KVM Hypervisor, using (from my OSX xterm > > > session) `ssh -X my-kvm-host` and `virt-manager`, then, even if a KVM > > > guest freezes with a grabbed keyboard+mouse, or just becomes very > > > slow, I can still forces it the release by pressing an OSX shortcut > > > like "command + tab", easy, easy, no need to kill KVM to get key+mouse > > > controls back... > > > > > > I'm wondering here, is XQuartz too much different from Xorg, that it > > > doesn't suffer from this problem that I'm seeing? Or, OSX never lost > > > its "keyboard + map" events, even if a KVM guest under XQuartz grabbed > > > it? > > > > xquartz is just an osx client - xorg on your desktop *IS* the entire > display. > > there is no master parent display system managing it ala osx. > > Okay, got it... > > Thanks again! > > Best, > Thiago -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. vanity: www.gigenet.com _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
