On Tue, 16 Feb 2016 10:42:35 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 15 Feb 2016 08:10:45 -0500 Conrad Knight
> <iestynap...@gmail.com> said:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I wrote a while back about an apparent memory leak while running
> > Enlightenment, but only have time to look into it every few weeks.
> > Here is something I've found...
> > 
> > The run-away memory usage only occurs while xscreensaver is running,
> > and then not every time. I figured it might have to do with specific
> > modes of the screensaver (i have it set to cycle through them
> > randomly). A few quick tests found one that reliably causes memory
> > usage to spike, "zoom", the last hack (in xscreensaver parlance) in
> > the list for the random selections.
> > 
> > These "hacks" can also be run manually without the xscreensaver
> > executable, and i was able to verify that "zoom" run by itself in a
> > window very quickly caused the memory problem. I had to switch to a
> > text virtual terminal to kill the process. Even after this, "ps"
> > shows that enlightenment continues to use over 40% of my system's
> > memory.  
> 
> so THAT is useful info. it's caused by xscreensaver.
> 
> first advice - stop using it. i haven't used it for like 15 years. its
> pointless chewing up your cpu (and gpu) while you are NOT THERE. it
> just eats power, damages our environment (by causing more energy use
> and thus attendant fossil fuel usage to generate it - in general. yes
> we can get into "but my power mostly comes from renewables" but then
> it'd help unload that and lower investment costs) ... and it costs
> money.


ROFLMAO  ..  My thoughts exactly.  (;


> screensavers are a hold-over from the days where monitors couldn't
> shut off - if you displayed the same thing for a long time it'd burn
> the image in. then monitors were able to actually power down later
> saving power. a black screen still used power. it hasnt needed to use
> power for like 2 decades now.
> 
> so stop using screensavers. you're not there.
> 
> now i'm done with that rant ... the issue is one of events.
> 
> http://devs.enlightenment.org/~raster/massif-out.txt
> 
> put that through massif visualizer and see. the issue is partly that
> xlib itself uses huge amounts of ram to buffer incoming event info -
> specifically region info then ecore puts this region info on its own
> event queue and uses yet more ram.
> 
> so let's look at this in more detail. zoom actually uses really low
> level draws
> - like drawing individual points or tiny regions. every one of these
> draws causes an update (damage) event from x and we store the tine
> region - i haven't looked but i think they are on the magnitude of
> 1x1 pixel or so. and its generating millions and millions of these
> every second. just to remember that little rect consumes somewhere
> like ~16 bytes of memory or more. so imagine like 10, 20, 30 million
> bytes.. or 10-30mb per second are easily being eaten up to store all
> of these.
> 
> at least what i see under valgrind and just running plain.. e can't
> keep up with the MASSIVE flood of incoming tiny damage regions and is
> basically spending all it's time dealing with this, never going idle.
> it's a horrible situation that basically never happens normally
> except for these patholigical apps that want to draw pixel-by-pixel
> with "old school 2d x11 draw primitves".
> 
> so ok - this is a nasty client when it comes to compositing in the
> way it draws. xorg doesnt seem to try and do any damage region
> "merging" inside, so the compositor has to deal with it all and
> that's just a tough thing to do. 
> 
> but this does seem to point out a few little issues that wouldn't
> normally turn up. i'll poke into some of them. but for now - just
> stop using xscreensaver. this os likely one of those things that will
> go away as we eventually move to wayland .. as it just wont exist
> anymore. :)
> 
> > I can kind of see why the memory usage of a badly behaving program
> > (or is it my video driver?) would show up as being used by
> > enlightenment instead -- enlightenment has to actually display the
> > pretty graphics on the screen. But why, after the process has been
> > killed, is this memory not freed? And is there perhaps a compile
> > option for E (or xscreensaver, for that matter) that would prevent
> > all of this in the first place?
> > 
> > Side note: "enlightenment_remote -restart" does free up the memory,
> > but often this times out before the restart occurs. Also, the
> > restart triggers the not-remembering-size-or-location problem with
> > the clock module, a separate issue that has persisted into e20.  
> 
> 


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