ok i pushed some changes as did raster...i seem to be running with asan and no problems...famous last words.
On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 11:19 AM Al Poole <nets...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey can you try this... > > > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 9:30 AM Al Poole <nets...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Nah >> >> On Tue, 7 Sep 2021, 09:25 Florian Schaefer, <list...@netego.de> wrote: >> >>> It seems I was once again celebrating to early... >>> >>> >>> Not trying to pretend that I actually understand the logic behind the >>> changed line >>> >>> if ((n) && (*n) && (*n + 1)) eina_strbuf_append(buf, " "); >>> >>> it more importantly still leads to buffer overflows. >>> >>> >>> https://pastebin.com/gf6AppF1 >>> >>> >>> Am I lately the harbinger of bad news? ;) >>> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Florian >>> >>> >>> "Florian Schaefer" list...@netego.de – September 7, 2021 4:23 PM >>> > Excellent. Many thanks. :) >>> > >>> > >>> > Cheers, >>> > >>> > Florian >>> > >>> > "Al Poole" nets...@gmail.com – September 7, 2021 4:18 PM >>> > > Pushed. >>> > > >>> > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 8:11 AM Al Poole <nets...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > Thanks Florian, I didn't backport this to procstats...should have >>> a fix... >>> > > > >>> > > > On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 12:46 AM Florian Schaefer < >>> list...@netego.de> >>> > > > wrote: >>> > > > >>> > > >> I think we've got a second, independent issue with procstat here. >>> This >>> > > >> time it seems to me your friendly string-buffer overflow. >>> Incidentally >>> > > >> triggered by a long command line in terminology while compiling >>> the latest >>> > > >> enlightenment. ;) >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> pastebin.com/Ue03AbmB >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Cheers, >>> > > >> >>> > > >> Florian >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> "Al Poole" nets...@gmail.com – September 6, 2021 1:22 AM >>> > > >> > Summoned >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > On Sun, 5 Sep 2021, 14:12 Carsten Haitzler, < >>> ras...@rasterman.com> >>> > > >> wrote: >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > > On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 11:25:35 +0900 Florian Schaefer < >>> list...@netego.de >>> > > >> > >>> > > >> > > said: >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > > OK, the ibox patch seemed to resolve this issue. >>> > > >> > > > Thank you very much! :-) >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > But. As you proposed I started to play with ASAN ... and >>> opened >>> > > >> quite a >>> > > >> > > > can of worms apparently. E is now rather constantly >>> crashing. I >>> > > >> guess >>> > > >> > > > this is because of the "abort_on_error=1" setting of ASAN >>> and it's, >>> > > >> > > > well, finding many memory leaks. So I hope we can squash >>> them one >>> > > >> by one. >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > export >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> >>> ASAN_OPTIONS="detect_odr_violation=0:detect_leaks=0:abort_on_error=1:new_delete_type_mismatch=0" >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > :) it will only barf on real memory erros - not smaller >>> things that >>> > > >> don't >>> > > >> > > cause >>> > > >> > > crashes. for leaks i'm more interested in using massif for >>> that, but >>> > > >> they >>> > > >> > > wont >>> > > >> > > cause crashes so those are "worry about another day" if >>> anything. >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > > First I want to say that I needed to add >>> "log_path=asan.log" to the >>> > > >> > > > ASAN_OPTIONS variable in order to have the asan output >>> actually >>> > > >> written >>> > > >> > > > somewhere, so I would propose to add this information to the >>> > > >> > > > enlightenment homepage. Most users nowadys probably don't >>> start E >>> > > >> from a >>> > > >> > > > terminal where any stdout would be visible. >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > actually i just redirect ALL stdout/err from e to >>> ~/.xsession-errors >>> > > >> so >>> > > >> > > that >>> > > >> > > handles it anyway :) you won't need to do the above special >>> asan log >>> > > >> if >>> > > >> > > you're >>> > > >> > > dloing that and i'd generally say it's a smart move. if you >>> don't you >>> > > >> can >>> > > >> > > also >>> > > >> > > check your journald logs from systemd etc. >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > > So I tried to capture one of the crashes as best as I could >>> with >>> > > >> both >>> > > >> > > > gdb and asan. This one seemed to be in the procstats >>> module. The >>> > > >> result >>> > > >> > > > is here: pastebin.com/M6V2QTwd >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > ooh procstats... i do not run that, so that probably explains >>> why i >>> > > >> don't >>> > > >> > > see >>> > > >> > > this... >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > /me summons a netstar >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > > Also, now E brings an additional error popup when returning >>> from the >>> > > >> > > > lock screen: "Authentication via PAM had errors setting up >>> the >>> > > >> > > > authentication session. The error code was 6." This did not >>> happen >>> > > >> > > > before the recompiling. So I was suspecting that this is >>> somehow >>> > > >> due to >>> > > >> > > > ASAN so I tried to remove the ASAN_OPTIONS from the >>> .xsessionrc. >>> > > >> But it >>> > > >> > > > seems that without this variable E won't even start now. I >>> see the >>> > > >> > > > processes in the process list but the screen remains just >>> black. >>> > > >> > > > Therefore back to ASAN it is. Also I could not find any >>> related >>> > > >> messages >>> > > >> > > > in auth.log or similar. Very strange and somewhat >>> unsettling. >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > aaaah yes. i think error code is changing because asan detects >>> > > >> something >>> > > >> > > e.g. >>> > > >> > > like a leak on shutdown of the ckpasswd slave binary thus >>> making this >>> > > >> not >>> > > >> > > work. >>> > > >> > > basically "don't rely on desklock to work right" if using >>> asan. kind >>> > > >> of a >>> > > >> > > "gotcha". >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > > Concerning the ACPI daemon. I see, this seems to be a "hard" >>> > > >> requirement >>> > > >> > > > of E then. Interesting design choice. For me personally >>> running an >>> > > >> ACPI >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > It's a soft requirement. E works without BUT you will be >>> missing >>> > > >> events for >>> > > >> > > things like: lid open/close, some power/reset buttons being >>> pressed, >>> > > >> ac >>> > > >> > > adaptor >>> > > >> > > plug/unplug ... e will check if your system has acpi at all - >>> if it >>> > > >> does it >>> > > >> > > will want events from acpid to handle these. it may be you >>> are lucky >>> > > >> and >>> > > >> > > don't >>> > > >> > > need these (eg only have a power button - you already getkey >>> press >>> > > >> for it >>> > > >> > > and >>> > > >> > > no reset button, no lid, no ac adapter/battery), but e will >>> basically >>> > > >> > > insist >>> > > >> > > this runs because you have these as possible events. it's a >>> trivially >>> > > >> small >>> > > >> > > daemon to run and every distro i know of has it, so not much >>> to just >>> > > >> go do >>> > > >> > > this. i added this because people complained e didn't suspend >>> their >>> > > >> laptop >>> > > >> > > on >>> > > >> > > lid close and it ended up they didn't follow the >>> recommendation of >>> > > >> having >>> > > >> > > acpid >>> > > >> > > to handle that. this is there because people don't follow >>> docs so now >>> > > >> it's >>> > > >> > > pushing it on everyone to avoid things like a laptop in your >>> backpack >>> > > >> > > running >>> > > >> > > and overheating and running your entire battery empty in a >>> few hours. >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > > daemon on a desktop system has exactly zero additional >>> benefit. The >>> > > >> > > > power button is handled by systemd just fine and I am happy >>> for >>> > > >> every >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > actually it's not. e inhibits systemd handling this - always. >>> no >>> > > >> choice. >>> > > >> > > when e >>> > > >> > > runs system will ignore this. e is handling it. it can handle >>> it >>> > > >> either >>> > > >> > > via a >>> > > >> > > x11 power key press event OR an acpi button press. see above. >>> :) >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > > unnecessary daemon that I can prevent from cluttering my ps >>> output. >>> > > >> So, >>> > > >> > > > anyway, for now I just commented out the callback to the >>> popup. >>> > > >> Works >>> > > >> > > > great. ;-) >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > see above. too many times people don't follow the >>> recommendations, so >>> > > >> now >>> > > >> > > forcing it on everyone. i have considered adding acpi support >>> to >>> > > >> > > enlightenment_system that runs as root, but i haven't done >>> that so >>> > > >> until >>> > > >> > > then ... you need acpid. :) >>> > > >> > > >>> > > >> > > > Cheers >>> > > >> > > > Florian >>> > > >> > > > >>> > > >> > > > On 9/5/21 6:27 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: >>> > > >> > > > > On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 17:52:09 +0900 Florian Schaefer < >>> > > >> list...@netego.de> >>> > > >> > > said: >>> > > >> > > > > >>> > > >> > > > >> On 9/4/21 4:55 PM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: >>> > > >> > > > >>> On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 11:47:20 +0900 Florian Schaefer < >>> > > >> > > list...@netego.de> >>> > > >> > > > >>> said: >>> > > >> > > > >>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>> Raster, >>> > > >> > > > >>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>> Thanks for the quick reply and help! >>> > > >> > > > >>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>> OK, so ibox seems to be the culprit. With the module >>> unloaded >>> > > >> I was >>> > > >> > > not >>> > > >> > > > >>>> able to crash the system. That's quite interesting, on >>> my >>> > > >> personal >>> > > >> > > > >>>> machine I am using ibox ever since and never had any >>> issues >>> > > >> (just >>> > > >> > > like >>> > > >> > > > >>>> your test yesterday). So this seems to be somehow >>> specific to >>> > > >> my new >>> > > >> > > > >>>> system here. >>> > > >> > > > >>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>> Anyway, thanks for pointing me into the right >>> direction. With >>> > > >> this >>> > > >> > > I now >>> > > >> > > > >>>> also finally understood how to identify which one of >>> the many >>> > > >> > > threads >>> > > >> > > > >>>> was the segfaulting one. ;-) >>> > > >> > > > >>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>> Now for the backtrace. As it is quite short I will >>> paste it >>> > > >> below >>> > > >> > > > >>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>> ======================================== >>> > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) bt >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #0 0x00007f23b417f872 in __libc_pause () at >>> > > >> > > > >>>> ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/pause.c:29 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #1 0x0000564440d159f7 in e_alert_show () at >>> > > >> ../src/bin/e_alert.c:43 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #2 0x0000564440cda47a in _e_crash () at >>> > > >> ../src/bin/e_signals.c:81 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #3 0x0000564440cda4a9 in e_sigseg_act (x=<optimized >>> out>, >>> > > >> > > > >>>> info=<optimized out>, data=<optimized out>) at >>> > > >> > > ../src/bin/e_signals.c:91 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #4 0x00007f23b4180140 in <signal handler called> () at >>> > > >> > > > >>>> /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #5 0x00007f23a57df211 in _ibox_icon_fill >>> (ic=0x5644419a2910) at >>> > > >> > > > >>>> ../src/modules/ibox/e_mod_main.c:636 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #6 0x00007f23a57df330 in _ibox_cb_icon_fill_timer >>> > > >> (data=<optimized >>> > > >> > > > >>>> out>) at ../src/modules/ibox/e_mod_main.c:526 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #7 0x00007f23b4c25581 in _ecore_call_task_cb >>> (data=<optimized >>> > > >> out>, >>> > > >> > > > >>>> func=<optimized out>) at >>> ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_private.h:456 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #8 _ecore_timer_legacy_tick (data=0x564441cbf230, >>> > > >> > > event=0x7ffd43c61150) >>> > > >> > > > >>>> at ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_timer.c:172 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #9 0x00007f23b3b1c130 in _event_callback_call >>> > > >> > > (obj_id=0x400000379067, >>> > > >> > > > >>>> pd=0x5644412371e0, desc=0x7f23b4c521e0 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> <_EFL_LOOP_TIMER_EVENT_TIMER_TICK>, >>> event_info=<optimized out>, >>> > > >> > > > >>>> legacy_compare=legacy_compare@entry=0 '\000') at >>> > > >> > > > >>>> ../src/lib/eo/eo_base_class.c:2114 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #10 0x00007f23b3b1c3ec in >>> _efl_object_event_callback_call >>> > > >> > > > >>>> (obj_id=<optimized out>, pd=<optimized out>, >>> desc=<optimized >>> > > >> out>, >>> > > >> > > > >>>> event_info=<optimized out>) at >>> > > >> ../src/lib/eo/eo_base_class.c:2186 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #11 0x00007f23b3b16620 in efl_event_callback_call >>> > > >> (obj=<optimized >>> > > >> > > out>, >>> > > >> > > > >>>> desc=desc@entry=0x7f23b4c521e0 >>> > > >> <_EFL_LOOP_TIMER_EVENT_TIMER_TICK>, >>> > > >> > > > >>>> event_info=event_info@entry=0x0) at >>> > > >> > > ../src/lib/eo/eo_base_class.c:2189 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #12 0x00007f23b4c26e15 in _efl_loop_timer_expired_call >>> > > >> > > > >>>> (obj=obj@entry=0x40000000012d, pd=pd@entry >>> =0x5644411fd460, >>> > > >> > > > >>>> when=when@entry=436613.23437423998) at >>> > > >> > > ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_timer.c:669 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #13 0x00007f23b4c26f43 in >>> _efl_loop_timer_expired_timers_call >>> > > >> > > > >>>> (obj=obj@entry=0x40000000012d, pd=pd@entry >>> =0x5644411fd460, >>> > > >> > > > >>>> when=436613.23437423998) at >>> ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_timer.c:621 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #14 0x00007f23b4bf2fae in >>> _ecore_main_loop_iterate_internal >>> > > >> > > > >>>> (obj=obj@entry=0x40000000012d, pd=pd@entry >>> =0x5644411fd460, >>> > > >> > > > >>>> once_only=once_only@entry=0) at >>> > > >> ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_main.c:2431 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #15 0x00007f23b4bf383f in _ecore_main_loop_begin >>> > > >> > > > >>>> (obj=obj@entry=0x40000000012d, pd=pd@entry=0x5644411fd460) >>> at >>> > > >> > > > >>>> ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_main.c:1231 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #16 0x00007f23b4bf7e6d in _efl_loop_begin >>> (obj=0x40000000012d, >>> > > >> > > > >>>> pd=0x5644411fd460) at ../src/lib/ecore/efl_loop.c:57 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #17 0x00007f23b4bf7233 in efl_loop_begin >>> (obj=0x40000000012d) >>> > > >> at >>> > > >> > > > >>>> src/lib/ecore/efl_loop.eo.c:28 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #18 0x00007f23b4bf390c in ecore_main_loop_begin () at >>> > > >> > > > >>>> ../src/lib/ecore/ecore_main.c:1316 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #19 0x0000564440cb8c50 in main (argc=<optimized out>, >>> > > >> > > argv=<optimized >>> > > >> > > > >>>> out>) at ../src/bin/e_main.c:1121 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) fr 5 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> #5 0x00007f23a57df211 in _ibox_icon_fill >>> (ic=0x5644419a2910) at >>> > > >> > > > >>>> ../src/modules/ibox/e_mod_main.c:636 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> 636 if ((ic->ibox->inst->ci->show_preview) && >>> > > >> > > > >>>> (edje_object_part_exists(ic->o_holder, >>> "e.swallow.preview"))) >>> > > >> > > > >>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) list >>> > > >> > > > >>>> 631 } >>> > > >> > > > >>>> 632 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> 633 static void >>> > > >> > > > >>>> 634 _ibox_icon_fill(IBox_Icon *ic) >>> > > >> > > > >>>> 635 { >>> > > >> > > > >>>> 636 if ((ic->ibox->inst->ci->show_preview) && >>> > > >> > > > >>>> (edje_object_part_exists(ic->o_holder, >>> "e.swallow.preview"))) >>> > > >> > > > >>>> 637 _ibox_icon_fill_preview(ic, EINA_FALSE); >>> > > >> > > > >>>> 638 else >>> > > >> > > > >>>> 639 _ibox_icon_fill_icon(ic); >>> > > >> > > > >>>> 640 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) print ic >>> > > >> > > > >>>> $1 = (IBox_Icon *) 0x5644419a2910 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) print *ic >>> > > >> > > > >>>> $2 = {ibox = 0x564441cc3fe0, o_holder = 0x0, o_icon = >>> 0x0, >>> > > >> > > o_holder2 = >>> > > >> > > > >>>> 0x0, o_icon2 = 0x0, client = 0x0, drag = {start = 0 >>> '\000', >>> > > >> dnd = 0 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> '\000', x = 0, y = 0, dx = 0, dy = 128}} >>> > > >> > > > >>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) print *(ic->ibox) >>> > > >> > > > >>>> $3 = {inst = 0x40, o_box = 0xe1, o_drop = >>> 0x564441a499b0, >>> > > >> > > o_drop_over = >>> > > >> > > > >>>> 0x7f23b4165cb0 <main_arena+304>, o_empty = >>> 0x7474756200726162, >>> > > >> > > > >>>> ic_drop_before = 0x81646c3698761235, drop_before = >>> 1103904792, >>> > > >> > > icons = >>> > > >> > > > >>>> 0x0, zone = 0x698761254, dnd_x = 0, dnd_y = 1769170290} >>> > > >> > > > >>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>> (gdb) print *(ic->ibox->inst) >>> > > >> > > > >>>> Cannot access memory at address 0x40 >>> > > >> > > > >>>> ======================================== >>> > > >> > > > >>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>> So somehow we've got some garbage pointer in >>> ic->ibox->inst. >>> > > >> > > > >>> >>> > > >> > > > >>> actualluy.. ic->ibox is junk. iut happens to point to >>> some >>> > > >> memory we >>> > > >> > > can >>> > > >> > > > >>> access but it's full of ... garbage. like dnd_y is and >>> > > >> unrealistic >>> > > >> > > coord. >>> > > >> > > > >>> zone does not look like a proper pointer (o_drop does) >>> and >>> > > >> o_box is >>> > > >> > > > >>> nothing like what a pointer should look like. >>> drop_before seems >>> > > >> junky >>> > > >> > > > >>> too. so ... what happened to ic->ibox? or ... for that >>> matter >>> > > >> what >>> > > >> > > > >>> happened to ic? maybe ic has been freed and now the >>> ibox ptr >>> > > >> has been >>> > > >> > > > >>> overwritten to point to some junk as i cant imagine the >>> ibox >>> > > >> struct >>> > > >> > > being >>> > > >> > > > >>> freed as that struct is still there for the ibox >>> gadget. so ... >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> Ah I see. It certainly makes debugging easier if you >>> know what a >>> > > >> > > pointer >>> > > >> > > > >> is supposed to look like. :-) >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >>> well turning on ASAN (search enlightenment.org for >>> asan and >>> > > >> how to >>> > > >> > > enable >>> > > >> > > > >>> it) in efl and e would probably instantly point out the >>> > > >> problem. you >>> > > >> > > can >>> > > >> > > > >>> try that as an exercise in being able to divine better >>> debug >>> > > >> info >>> > > >> > > from >>> > > >> > > > >>> efl >>> > > >> > > > >>> + e. it's pretty easy now with meson.... :) unlike >>> valgrind >>> > > >> it's not >>> > > >> > > > >>> prohibitively slow either. it's usable day to day on a >>> fast >>> > > >> enough >>> > > >> > > > >>> machine. >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> Interesting. Thanks for the pointer to new debugging >>> tools. (And >>> > > >> yes, >>> > > >> > > > >> valgrind is really slow.) I found the documentation you >>> > > >> mentioned. I >>> > > >> > > > >> think I will give it a try before applying your patch, >>> just to >>> > > >> see >>> > > >> > > what >>> > > >> > > > >> happens and to be able to play around with it for a bit. >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >>> and i can see the problem: >>> > > >> > > > >>> >>> > > >> > > > >>> ecore_timer_add(0.1, _ibox_cb_icon_fill_timer, ic); >>> > > >> > > > >>> >>> > > >> > > > >>> a timer is created to fill the icon in 0.1 sec... but >>> ... >>> > > >> imagine >>> > > >> > > the icon >>> > > >> > > > >>> (ic) has been freed/deleted BEFORE the timer fires... >>> in 0.1sec >>> > > >> from >>> > > >> > > > >>> now. ... someone added a timer without remembering to >>> delete it >>> > > >> when >>> > > >> > > the >>> > > >> > > > >>> icon the timer is for is deleted! a bit sloppy... >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> Bad boy. ;-) >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> This means that on my old laptop I never ran into any >>> issues >>> > > >> because >>> > > >> > > it >>> > > >> > > > >> is just too slow for this race condition to occur? >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >>> d12acf0d01e628d71548adbb77670c7e40aef043 commit in git >>> now fixes >>> > > >> > > that. >>> > > >> > > > >>> problem is in e ... not efl :) >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> Great. Thanks! As said before, I will try to tackle this >>> with >>> > > >> ASAN >>> > > >> > > first >>> > > >> > > > >> for training and then see how your solution is holding >>> up. That >>> > > >> will >>> > > >> > > > >> hopefully be tomorrow. >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >> Now to the second point of my first mail from yesterday: >>> Is >>> > > >> there any >>> > > >> > > > >> way for me to disable/silence the error popup on startup >>> that no >>> > > >> ACPI >>> > > >> > > > >> daemon is running? >>> > > >> > > > > >>> > > >> > > > > oh yes. install acpid and have it run. :) >>> > > >> > > > > >>> > > >> > > > >> Cheers, >>> > > >> > > > >> Florian >>> > > >> > > > >> >>> > > >> > > > >>>> I tried to poke into the preceding frames (#6 and #7) >>> but only >>> > > >> hit >>> > > >> > > > >>>> optimized out variables. This is efl territory, right? >>> This >>> > > >> morning >>> > > >> > > I >>> > > >> > > > >>>> recompiled enlightenment with "-O0 -g" but I guess I >>> should >>> > > >> also >>> > > >> > > have >>> > > >> > > > >>>> done the same to efl. Well, I can do this the next >>> time I'm in >>> > > >> > > office if >>> > > >> > > > >>>> helpful. >>> > > >> > > > >>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>> Any ideas? >>> > > >> > > > >>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>> For now I gave ibar a try. Not exactly a replacement >>> for me. I >>> > > >> don't >>> > > >> > > > >>>> need a launcher (using everything and favorites menu >>> instead) >>> > > >> or a >>> > > >> > > > >>>> tracker of running windows (I know what windows I have >>> open). >>> > > >> I only >>> > > >> > > > >>>> need something to show my minimized windows so that I >>> can open >>> > > >> them >>> > > >> > > > >>>> again (I know, they appear with Alt+Tab...) and this >>> seems to >>> > > >> be the >>> > > >> > > > >>>> only scenario that cannot be reproduced by ibar. -- I >>> guess I >>> > > >> never >>> > > >> > > > >>>> bought into the MacOS style launcher bar. ;-) >>> > > >> > > > >>> >>> > > >> > > > >>> ibar will show both running and minimized icons for >>> windows .. >>> > > >> but >>> > > >> > > ok - >>> > > >> > > > >>> yeah - it doesnt "show only minimized"... :) >>> > > >> > > > >>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>> Cheers >>> > > >> > > > >>>> Florian >>> > > >> > > > >>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>> On 9/4/21 1:25 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> On Fri, 3 Sep 2021 21:04:35 +0900 Florian Schaefer < >>> > > >> > > list...@netego.de> >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> said: >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> quick - if you unload the ibox module ... does the >>> problem >>> > > >> stop? >>> > > >> > > that >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> crash is inside ibox code - memory it's accessing is >>> > > >> bad/wrong - >>> > > >> > > why i >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> don't know. not more information. like 363 in ibox is: >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> if ((ic->ibox->inst->ci->show_preview) && >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> (edje_object_part_exists(ic->o_holder, >>> "e.swallow.preview"))) >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> so what is ic? whats is ic->ibox, ic->ibox->inst, >>> > > >> > > ic->ibox->inst->ci ? >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> if you attach gdb when e crashes and dump these >>> values - i'd >>> > > >> know >>> > > >> > > more. >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> maybe. I actually stopped using ibox a while ago >>> since ibar >>> > > >> does >>> > > >> > > both >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> effectively these days. perhaps it is an ibox bug and >>> i havent >>> > > >> > > seen it >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> as i dont use it. so try the above, if it goes away - >>> attach >>> > > >> gdb >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> i can say that i dont see the problem here with ibox >>> enabled >>> > > >> and >>> > > >> > > on amd >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> + e (git). >>> > > >> > > > >>>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> Dear everyone, >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> so I got a new desktop PC at work and the first >>> thing I did, >>> > > >> of >>> > > >> > > course, >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> was to install Debian sid and enlightenment-git. ;-) >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> The machine has a Nvidia T600 card and this is where >>> troubles >>> > > >> > > probably >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> begin. As I kind of need the graphics performance >>> for CAD I >>> > > >> went >>> > > >> > > with >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> the drivers from Nvidia (the stock open source >>> drivers were >>> > > >> > > terribly >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> slow). >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> Now what happens is that enlightenment crashes >>> often. Like >>> > > >> kind of >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> constantly. I got the impression it happens mostly >>> when >>> > > >> several >>> > > >> > > windows >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> are going through their appearance fade-in >>> transition at the >>> > > >> same >>> > > >> > > time. >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> Then the "red screen of death" appears and I need to >>> press >>> > > >> F1 to >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> continue. With some applications this happens always >>> (Eagle >>> > > >> > > anyone?) >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> with others only sometimes. After the forced restart >>> many >>> > > >> windows >>> > > >> > > (e.g. >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> terminology always, firefox sometimes) need to be >>> minimized >>> > > >> and >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> uncovered again for their content to display again. >>> Some >>> > > >> dialog >>> > > >> > > windows >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> won't even show their content from the beginning and >>> instead >>> > > >> just >>> > > >> > > some >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> different portion of the screen. Needless to say >>> that for a >>> > > >> > > machine at >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> work this is not an optimal situation. >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> The most pressing issue are of course the crashes. I >>> > > >> recompiled >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> everything with debugging symbols and optimization >>> disabled >>> > > >> (or at >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> least I thought so, some things seem still to be >>> optimized >>> > > >> away) >>> > > >> > > to >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> get some meaningful dumps. One of which I uploaded to >>> > > >> pastebin >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> (pastebin.com/YWSarC10) hoping that it makes sense >>> to >>> > > >> > > someone. >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> I am sure that it is not E that is "at fault" but >>> Nvidia, >>> > > >> but for >>> > > >> > > now I >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> need to find a way around this so that I can work >>> without >>> > > >> having >>> > > >> > > to >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> reset everything every five minutes. Any ideas? >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> Oh, I also tried to disable OpenGL in the compositor >>> > > >> settings and >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> choosing the software option. And it still crashes! >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> For starters I was hoping that I can just switch off >>> all the >>> > > >> > > window >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> transition-fading eye-candy but I did not understand >>> whether >>> > > >> this >>> > > >> > > is >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> possible. Is it? >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> Finally, being a desktop system (my first in like 10 >>> years >>> > > >> or so) >>> > > >> > > it >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> does not run an acpi daemon. I don't really see any >>> reason >>> > > >> to do >>> > > >> > > so. >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> Therefore E also complains on every startup that no >>> acpi >>> > > >> daemon >>> > > >> > > can be >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> found. I did not find any compile time or runtime >>> options to >>> > > >> > > disable >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> acpi. Is there a way to silence this error/warning? >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> Cheers, >>> > > >> > > > >>>>>> Florian >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > enlightenment-users mailing list >>> > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> > lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> enlightenment-users mailing list >>> enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users >>> >> _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users