Thanks I will try that.  I have tried this from two very different laptops,
an older dell and a newish HP so I wasn't thinking drivers.  I will give
that a try.

Thanks

John


On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 2:07 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Pulling from some dusty mental archives, I recall something similar in our
> network: some refreshed Dell GX270 and some new GX620 models wouldn't
> authenticate, and never even prompted for credentials.  We discovered the
> issue was related to the built-in Windows 7 drivers for their respective
> NICs.  Upgrading to the latest version from Broadcom's website corrected
> the problem.
>
> I hadn't seen any mention here of drivers, so thought I'd pass along my
> experience.
>
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>
> From:        Karl Gerling <[email protected]>
> To:        "Enterasys Customer Mailing List" <[email protected]>
> Date:        05/09/2013 12:58 PM
> Subject:        Re: [enterasys] Wired 802.1x
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> I have seen behavior like this if the client is set to the default of "use
> smart card".  Check that the client is set to PEAP.
>
> Karl Gerling
> Senior Solutions Engineer
> Enterasys Networks
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> On May 9, 2013, at 1:31 PM, John Kaftan 
> <*[email protected]*<[email protected]>>
> wrote:
>
> Yes I have tried that.  I don't believe I see anything when it fails.  I
> will look again and will also check the syslog.
>
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Herzog, Gerald 
> <*[email protected]*<[email protected]>>
> wrote:
> Is there any username that is populated in NAC when it fails
> authentication?  Have you tried specifying "user authentication"?
> <image.png>
>
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 1:17 PM, John Kaftan 
> <*[email protected]*<[email protected]>>
> wrote:
> It works for me if I go into the network settings and save my credentials.
>  It also works if I have a machine that is in the domain and I check
> "Automatically use my Windows logon name and password".  That will cover
> 90% of my cases.
>
> However, if a machine is not on the domain and connects I expect that I
> should be prompted by the supplicant to provide credentials.  That is the
> part that is not working.
>
> Thanks
>
> John
>
>
> On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Kay Avila 
> <*[email protected]*<[email protected]>>
> wrote:
> John, we've only done limited testing, but so far, authenticating with
> 802.1x AD machine accounts on Windows 7 has worked successfully for us.
>  Just a thought.
>
>
> On 5/7/2013 6:31 PM, John Kaftan wrote:
> Actually it does work when I have that set.  I tried that earlier today.
> Often in a university though machines are on the network that are not
> part of the AD domain, like the first two I was working with.  Its crazy
> that Windows won't respond the the first eap packet from the switch
> unless credentials are configured to be provided automatically.
> Wireless prompts just fine.  I did some research and it seems that
> 802.1x on wired is still unreliable.  I found 7 patches to install and
> it still doesn't work right. I wonder why wireless is fine but wired
> isn't.  The protocol has been around since 2002 or so.  It should be
> fully baked by now.
>
> John
>
> On May 7, 2013 7:11 PM, "Robert Perry" 
> <*[email protected]*<[email protected]>
> <mailto:*[email protected]* <[email protected]>>> wrote:
>
>     Have a look at this document,  it may help.   Specifically look at
>     section 1.1.10 -  This would seem what “MIGHT” be missing ?      How
>     are you disconnecting and reconnecting from the network ?   Are you
>     unplugging the cable ?   If you actually logout, you should get
>     prompted for a new login.
>
>     Best of luck !
>
>     Best Regards,
>
>     Bob Perry
>
>     *From:*John Kaftan [mailto:*[email protected]* <[email protected]>
>     <mailto:*[email protected]* <[email protected]>>]
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, May 07, 2013 2:43 PM
>     *To:* Enterasys Customer Mailing List
>     *Subject:* Re: [enterasys] Wired 802.1x
>
>
>     That's not good.  I want to keep Admin-Edge.  I do have 802.1x
>     listed as first.  802.1x is working just fine if I store my
>     credentials within the supplicate.  My only problem is that I cannot
>     get prompted by Windows.
>
>     On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 1:34 PM, Brian Anderson - ASI
>     <*[email protected]* <[email protected]> <mailto:*
> [email protected]* <[email protected]>>> wrote:
>
>     There may be some switch config settings that might help.  Try
>     setting 8021x as first in priority for authentication.  I also have
>     seen admin-edge enabled on the end system port (spantree) cause
>     8021x to fail also.
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Brian Anderson
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>     *From:*John Kaftan [mailto:*[email protected]* <[email protected]>
>     <mailto:*[email protected]* <[email protected]>>]
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, May 07, 2013 11:17 AM
>
>
>     *To:* Enterasys Customer Mailing List
>
>     *Subject:* [enterasys] Wired 802.1x
>
>
>     Working to get 802.1x going on Win 7 wired ports.  I have it working
>     if I save my credentials in Windows.  If I don't save my credentials
>     Windows never prompts me for credentials.  Packet captures suggest
>     that the client never responds to the initial eap packet from the
>     switch so the switch never sends the challenge.  I have the Wired
>     AutoConfig service running.  Any ideas?  I've been messing with all
>     of the settings.  I see this happening on two machines both of which
>     do fine on wireless 802.1x.
>
>     I am using B5s and NAC as my RADIUS server.
>
>     Thanks
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