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>>> "Schoenfeld, Kevin" <[email protected]> 11/26/13 08:59 >>>

Be warned, depending on the platform you are using - the outportAlgorithm for 
LACP options change.  We recently moved to 7100 top of rack switches (from an 
N7) and surprisingly, the newer switches do not support round-robin - which 
would minimize benefit on your backup example.

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From: Jolie, David [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 9:09 AM
To: Enterasys Customer Mailing List
Subject: Re: [enterasys] LAG vs MSTP for redundant switch links

As noted in a prior e-mail, Link Aggregation path selection can sometimes favor 
one path so it is important to understand traffic flow in your network when 
configuring the distribution algorithm.  By default on S-series the path 
selection is based on a hash of the Destination IP - Source IP (DIP-SIP) 
pairings.  This normally results in a pretty fair distribution of traffic but, 
in the case of a single server sending a ton of traffic to a single destination 
(i.e. the backup example mentioned earlier), all that traffic would take a 
single path since it's a single DIP/SIP pair.

For S-series you can choose an alternate distribution method as follows:
set lacp outportAlgorithm {dip-sip | da-sa | round-robin}

Also note that the distribution method effects only traffic leaving the switch 
in question - you need to configure both ends of the LAG or you may still see 
unequal traffic distribution.

By contrast, with MSTP you only get a single path (one per VLAN if configured 
that way) and you don't have the option for round-robin with MSTP...

Cheers,
Dave J


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On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 4:50 AM, Gradelain Ngouni 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi James,

as Benjamin just stated.
I'll prefer Rapid Spanning Tree and configured additionally  LACP. In a case 
you have 2xS4 at the core. Just configure VSB and LACP the edge Switches to the 
core ==> Loop-free.
But, still keep the Spanning-tree active.

Regards

Gradelain

Von: Benjamin Maze (Europe) 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Gesendet: Montag, 25. November 2013 10:40
An: Enterasys Customer Mailing List
Betreff: RE: [enterasys] LAG vs MSTP for redundant switch links

Hi James,

The best choice is the Lag without any hesitation
LACP will ensure you a convergence time under 300ms which is quite transparent 
for your application
I thing that MSTP convergence take around 1s following the case of failure

The other benefit of LACP versus Spanning tree is the stability of the network. 
The spanning tree is often a source of big problem in case of loop in your 
network.

The spanning tree should be configured in addition of LACP (don't disable 
spanning tree on LACP link), that ensure a protection in case of an incident in 
LACP (like a bug)

Today, the best practice in network design is to avoid spanning tree

So, I recommend you to use LACP

Regards,



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From: James Andrewartha [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: lundi 25 novembre 2013 02:58
To: Enterasys Customer Mailing List
Subject: [enterasys] LAG vs MSTP for redundant switch links



Hi list,

I'm setting up dual fibre links between our core and edge switches, and
was pondering whether to set up link aggregation or use MSTP to balance
the traffic across the links. My primary concern is for redundancy, not
extra bandwidth (I just checked cacti, and most don't sustain 100Mb/s).
How do MSTP and LACP compare for failover times?

The other thing about LACP is the config overhead of having to set the
aadminkey on the physical and LAG ports plus ensuring the VLANs match.
Whereas with MSTP I don't have to worry about the LAG port, and can just
set a port priority on the SID to balance the traffic if required.

I'm leaning towards MSTP, but every man and his dog seems to have a
spanning-tree meltdown story. All the switches will be Enterasys (S4 at
the core, B3/B5 at the edge) so you'd think it should all work fine.
Opinions?

Thanks,

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Christ Church Grammar School
Claremont, Western Australia
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