There seem to be a memory leak somewhere in the code, FF is using 1.3Gb ram and 
40-50% cpu when running the same tabs/add-ons last week it was only using 
3-400Mb and less than 10% cpu

Trying to get some HTTP logs, but FF is nigh-on unusable 

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   1. Re:  Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR
      (Lawrence Mandel)
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      (Lawrence Mandel)
   3. Re:  Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR (Jim Weill)
   4. Re:  Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR
      (Hendrik Noack)
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      (Lawrence Mandel)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 12:10:58 -0400
From: Lawrence Mandel <[email protected]>
To: Andrew C Aitchison <[email protected]>
Cc: enterprise owner <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from
        45.9->52.1 ESR
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Given the report about this still being an issue in 52.2.1 we're still
investigating. The developers have requested an http log from someone who
is able to reproduce the issue. Details on creating an http log at are

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/HTTP_logging#Using_aboutnetworking

Thanks,

Lawrence

On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Andrew C Aitchison <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> Or, could the delay be some DNS lookup which times out ?
>
> Firefox has its own DNS cache (which can be overridden).
> Maybe the switch to multi-threading has done something to the DNS handling
> ?
>
>
> On Sat, 1 Jul 2017, stein.wm wrote:
>
> Perhaps it's the Virus Protection. E. g. on my PC a new version of Avira
>> (after last product update from 2017-June-02) now tries to sent requests
>> home with every suspection or internet request. If the firewall blocks
>> this, the virus protection delays the start of the intercepted module for a
>> trial period of about half a minute.
>> But this effect should also occur with other software, it is not limited
>> to the new Firefox version.
>> stein.wm
>>
>>
>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Enterprise [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von
>> Remy Molenaar
>> Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Juli 2017 08:50
>> An: Jim Weill
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from
>> 45.9->52.1 ESR
>>
>> I have that problem also with the official version. I'm still not sure
>> what the problem is. I've noticed that it occurs only with internet pages,
>> none internal. First I thought it was my ad blocker. But I did a clean
>> install (with clean profile) and having the issue back again.
>>
>> I'm on Windows 7 Pro btw.
>>
>>
>> Remy
>> Op 30 jun. 2017 om 19:23 heeft Jim Weill <[email protected]> het
>> volgende geschreven:
>>
>>
>>
>>         I don't know about anyone else, but I am still having the
>> slowness issue with Firefox, even after upgrading to the (unannounced)
>> 52.2.1 release.  For this reason I am pushing Chrome to our users because
>> we cannot keep having random page timeouts slowing us down like this.
>>
>>         I cannot find a way to recreate the issue, other than at least
>> once per hour the whole browser stops loading pages and it takes anywhere
>> from 30-60 seconds before I can use firefox again.  I can open new tabs and
>> start trying to load pages, but none of them load until whatever is
>> bottle-necking the browser finally releases.
>>
>>         jim
>>
>>
>>
>>         On 6/6/2017 11:50 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
>>
>>
>>                 Thanks Samuel. As a follow up, I have filed
>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629
>>
>>
>>                 Lawrence
>>
>>
>>                 On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Samuel Ambaye <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>                         We noticed the issue when one of our users
>> reported a similar issue following a minor version ESR update:
>>
>>                         Using FF 45.9.0.6310 & Windows 7.
>>                         (1) Start FF
>>                         (2) goto this URL www.lematin.ch (newspaper in
>> Geneva, Switzerland)
>>                         Results: Browser waits for the page to load for
>> two-three minutes to load (but would actually load);
>>                         Results: Other browsers, No issue;
>>                         (4) Close browser
>>                         Browser hangs and requires a kill process.
>>                         (5) Restart Browser and Try different web sites,
>> even ones that were ok before;
>>                         Results: Browser waits for web site for over two
>> / three minutes;
>>                         (5) Kill Process, Restart browser and repeat step
>> 2 and 5:
>>                         Same Result;
>>                         (6) Kill Process, Replace FF user profile and
>> repeat step 2 and 5:
>>                         Same Result;
>>                         (7) Uninstall FF for users who were affected;
>> Install FF 52.1.0.6316
>>                         Issue no longer reproducible
>>
>>                         We hope this helps.
>>
>>                         Best,
>>                         Samuel
>>
>>
>>
>>                         >>> Jim Weill <[email protected]>
>> 19/05/2017 00:17 >>>
>>
>>                         I notice the issue when I first open FF in the
>> morning on Windows 7 Pro
>>                         x64 machines.  After that I cannot come up with a
>> reliable way to
>>                         reproduce this issue, other than it happens at
>> random times throughout
>>                         the day.
>>
>>                         I do not notice this on Mac OSX 10.12 at all (we
>> have a few of these).
>>                         And I have not polled our Linux users on this
>> issue, so I do not know
>>                         where that stands.
>>
>>                         Is there something in the dev tools that I can
>> leave open when this
>>                         happens again to try to narrow this down?  I've
>> had this happen several
>>                         times today already.
>>
>>                         jim
>>
>>
>>                         On 5/11/2017 11:51 AM, Phil Pishioneri wrote:
>>                         > On 5/11/17 2:06 PM, Julien Cristau wrote:
>>                         >> we've filed a bug at
>>                         >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/s
>> how_bug.cgi?id=1361865 <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
>> show_bug.cgi?id=1361865>  to investigate
>>                         >> the issue reported in this thread.
>> Unfortunately so far we haven't
>>                         >> been able to reproduce this internally.  Does
>> anyone on this thread
>>                         >> have a reliable way to reproduce the problem
>> you've seen?  If this is
>>                         >> also reproducible with the non-ESR Firefox
>> releases, knowing which
>>                         >> version introduced it would also help narrow
>> down the search.
>>                         >
>>                         > I've had very reproducible delays since
>> (non-ESR) release 48. I found
>>                         > it related to syncing of my (large) bookmarks.
>> Whenever the sync
>>                         > process starts (this can be "random",
>> especially if a Firefox is
>>                         > active on another host syncing to the same
>> account), Firefox's UI
>>                         > locks up for a few seconds. On a Mac, I get the
>> spinning beach ball;
>>                         > on Windows, I'll get the window title bar
>> message about the process
>>                         > not responding; I don't recall the behavior on
>> Linux, other than
>>                         > Firefox becomes unresponsive. Creating a new
>> bookmark also starts a
>>                         > sync (and, it'll start while the "Bookmark This
>> Page" window is open).
>>                         >
>>                         > My circumvention was to find the host name
>> being used for my sync, and
>>                         > put in an override in my client's hosts file
>> that maps the name to
>>                         > loopback 127.0.0.1, then commenting that out
>> and manually starting a
>>                         > sync when I need it (then uncomment it again
>> afterward).
>>                         >
>>                         > My multiprocess status is off on all of these
>> platforms due to
>>                         > incompatible extensions.
>>                         >
>>                         > -Phil
>>                         > _______________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 13:37:15 -0400
From: Lawrence Mandel <[email protected]>
To: Andrew C Aitchison <[email protected]>
Cc: enterprise owner <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from
        45.9->52.1 ESR
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I didn't say how to get your logs to Mozilla. Here are two ways:

1. Post your logs to Bugzilla. Use https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
show_bug.cgi?id=1370629
2. Email your logs to me privately. Please let me know if you're OK with me
posting your logs to Bugzilla. If not, I'll share them with the developers
directly and ask that they be deleted when we're done analyzing them.

Thanks,

Lawrence

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Lawrence Mandel <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Given the report about this still being an issue in 52.2.1 we're still
> investigating. The developers have requested an http log from someone who
> is able to reproduce the issue. Details on creating an http log at are
>
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/
> HTTP_logging#Using_aboutnetworking
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lawrence
>
> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Andrew C Aitchison <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> Or, could the delay be some DNS lookup which times out ?
>>
>> Firefox has its own DNS cache (which can be overridden).
>> Maybe the switch to multi-threading has done something to the DNS
>> handling ?
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 1 Jul 2017, stein.wm wrote:
>>
>> Perhaps it's the Virus Protection. E. g. on my PC a new version of Avira
>>> (after last product update from 2017-June-02) now tries to sent requests
>>> home with every suspection or internet request. If the firewall blocks
>>> this, the virus protection delays the start of the intercepted module for a
>>> trial period of about half a minute.
>>> But this effect should also occur with other software, it is not limited
>>> to the new Firefox version.
>>> stein.wm
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>> Von: Enterprise [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von
>>> Remy Molenaar
>>> Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Juli 2017 08:50
>>> An: Jim Weill
>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>> Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from
>>> 45.9->52.1 ESR
>>>
>>> I have that problem also with the official version. I'm still not sure
>>> what the problem is. I've noticed that it occurs only with internet pages,
>>> none internal. First I thought it was my ad blocker. But I did a clean
>>> install (with clean profile) and having the issue back again.
>>>
>>> I'm on Windows 7 Pro btw.
>>>
>>>
>>> Remy
>>> Op 30 jun. 2017 om 19:23 heeft Jim Weill <[email protected]>
>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         I don't know about anyone else, but I am still having the
>>> slowness issue with Firefox, even after upgrading to the (unannounced)
>>> 52.2.1 release.  For this reason I am pushing Chrome to our users because
>>> we cannot keep having random page timeouts slowing us down like this.
>>>
>>>         I cannot find a way to recreate the issue, other than at least
>>> once per hour the whole browser stops loading pages and it takes anywhere
>>> from 30-60 seconds before I can use firefox again.  I can open new tabs and
>>> start trying to load pages, but none of them load until whatever is
>>> bottle-necking the browser finally releases.
>>>
>>>         jim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On 6/6/2017 11:50 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>                 Thanks Samuel. As a follow up, I have filed
>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629
>>>
>>>
>>>                 Lawrence
>>>
>>>
>>>                 On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Samuel Ambaye <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>                         We noticed the issue when one of our users
>>> reported a similar issue following a minor version ESR update:
>>>
>>>                         Using FF 45.9.0.6310 & Windows 7.
>>>                         (1) Start FF
>>>                         (2) goto this URL www.lematin.ch (newspaper in
>>> Geneva, Switzerland)
>>>                         Results: Browser waits for the page to load for
>>> two-three minutes to load (but would actually load);
>>>                         Results: Other browsers, No issue;
>>>                         (4) Close browser
>>>                         Browser hangs and requires a kill process.
>>>                         (5) Restart Browser and Try different web sites,
>>> even ones that were ok before;
>>>                         Results: Browser waits for web site for over two
>>> / three minutes;
>>>                         (5) Kill Process, Restart browser and repeat
>>> step 2 and 5:
>>>                         Same Result;
>>>                         (6) Kill Process, Replace FF user profile and
>>> repeat step 2 and 5:
>>>                         Same Result;
>>>                         (7) Uninstall FF for users who were affected;
>>> Install FF 52.1.0.6316
>>>                         Issue no longer reproducible
>>>
>>>                         We hope this helps.
>>>
>>>                         Best,
>>>                         Samuel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                         >>> Jim Weill <[email protected]>
>>> 19/05/2017 00:17 >>>
>>>
>>>                         I notice the issue when I first open FF in the
>>> morning on Windows 7 Pro
>>>                         x64 machines.  After that I cannot come up with
>>> a reliable way to
>>>                         reproduce this issue, other than it happens at
>>> random times throughout
>>>                         the day.
>>>
>>>                         I do not notice this on Mac OSX 10.12 at all (we
>>> have a few of these).
>>>                         And I have not polled our Linux users on this
>>> issue, so I do not know
>>>                         where that stands.
>>>
>>>                         Is there something in the dev tools that I can
>>> leave open when this
>>>                         happens again to try to narrow this down?  I've
>>> had this happen several
>>>                         times today already.
>>>
>>>                         jim
>>>
>>>
>>>                         On 5/11/2017 11:51 AM, Phil Pishioneri wrote:
>>>                         > On 5/11/17 2:06 PM, Julien Cristau wrote:
>>>                         >> we've filed a bug at
>>>                         >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/s
>>> how_bug.cgi?id=1361865 <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
>>> show_bug.cgi?id=1361865>  to investigate
>>>                         >> the issue reported in this thread.
>>> Unfortunately so far we haven't
>>>                         >> been able to reproduce this internally.  Does
>>> anyone on this thread
>>>                         >> have a reliable way to reproduce the problem
>>> you've seen?  If this is
>>>                         >> also reproducible with the non-ESR Firefox
>>> releases, knowing which
>>>                         >> version introduced it would also help narrow
>>> down the search.
>>>                         >
>>>                         > I've had very reproducible delays since
>>> (non-ESR) release 48. I found
>>>                         > it related to syncing of my (large) bookmarks.
>>> Whenever the sync
>>>                         > process starts (this can be "random",
>>> especially if a Firefox is
>>>                         > active on another host syncing to the same
>>> account), Firefox's UI
>>>                         > locks up for a few seconds. On a Mac, I get
>>> the spinning beach ball;
>>>                         > on Windows, I'll get the window title bar
>>> message about the process
>>>                         > not responding; I don't recall the behavior on
>>> Linux, other than
>>>                         > Firefox becomes unresponsive. Creating a new
>>> bookmark also starts a
>>>                         > sync (and, it'll start while the "Bookmark
>>> This Page" window is open).
>>>                         >
>>>                         > My circumvention was to find the host name
>>> being used for my sync, and
>>>                         > put in an override in my client's hosts file
>>> that maps the name to
>>>                         > loopback 127.0.0.1, then commenting that out
>>> and manually starting a
>>>                         > sync when I need it (then uncomment it again
>>> afterward).
>>>                         >
>>>                         > My multiprocess status is off on all of these
>>> platforms due to
>>>                         > incompatible extensions.
>>>                         >
>>>                         > -Phil
>>>                         > ______________________________
>>> _________________
>>>                         > Enterprise mailing list
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 11:13:29 -0700
From: Jim Weill <[email protected]>
To: Lawrence Mandel <[email protected]>,      Andrew C Aitchison
        <[email protected]>
Cc: enterprise owner <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from
        45.9->52.1 ESR
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"

My generated logs are far larger than the bug report can upload -- four 
files were created that all come in at 45+ MB each. Compressing them 
results in an 18MB zip file, which is still too large, even for email.  
How do I upload these logs?

jim

On 7/24/2017 10:37 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
> I didn't say how to get your logs to Mozilla. Here are two ways:
>
> 1. Post your logs to Bugzilla. Use 
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629 
> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629>
> 2. Email your logs to me privately. Please let me know if you're OK 
> with me posting your logs to Bugzilla. If not, I'll share them with 
> the developers directly and ask that they be deleted when we're done 
> analyzing them.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lawrence
>
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Lawrence Mandel <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Given the report about this still being an issue in 52.2.1 we're
>     still investigating. The developers have requested an http log
>     from someone who is able to reproduce the issue. Details on
>     creating an http log at are
>
>     
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/HTTP_logging#Using_aboutnetworking
>     
> <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/HTTP_logging#Using_aboutnetworking>
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Lawrence
>
>     On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Andrew C Aitchison
>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>         Or, could the delay be some DNS lookup which times out ?
>
>         Firefox has its own DNS cache (which can be overridden).
>         Maybe the switch to multi-threading has done something to the
>         DNS handling ?
>
>
>         On Sat, 1 Jul 2017, stein.wm wrote:
>
>             Perhaps it's the Virus Protection. E. g. on my PC a new
>             version of Avira (after last product update from
>             2017-June-02) now tries to sent requests home with every
>             suspection or internet request. If the firewall blocks
>             this, the virus protection delays the start of the
>             intercepted module for a trial period of about half a minute.
>             But this effect should also occur with other software, it
>             is not limited to the new Firefox version.
>             stein.wm
>
>
>             -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>             Von: Enterprise [mailto:[email protected]
>             <mailto:[email protected]>] Im Auftrag von
>             Remy Molenaar
>             Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Juli 2017 08:50
>             An: Jim Weill
>             Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>             Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after
>             update from 45.9->52.1 ESR
>
>             I have that problem also with the official version. I'm
>             still not sure what the problem is. I've noticed that it
>             occurs only with internet pages, none internal. First I
>             thought it was my ad blocker. But I did a clean install
>             (with clean profile) and having the issue back again.
>
>             I'm on Windows 7 Pro btw.
>
>
>             Remy
>             Op 30 jun. 2017 om 19:23 heeft Jim Weill
>             <[email protected]
>             <mailto:[email protected]>> het volgende geschreven:
>
>
>
>                     I don't know about anyone else, but I am still
>             having the slowness issue with Firefox, even after
>             upgrading to the (unannounced) 52.2.1 release.  For this
>             reason I am pushing Chrome to our users because we cannot
>             keep having random page timeouts slowing us down like this.
>
>                     I cannot find a way to recreate the issue, other
>             than at least once per hour the whole browser stops
>             loading pages and it takes anywhere from 30-60 seconds
>             before I can use firefox again.  I can open new tabs and
>             start trying to load pages, but none of them load until
>             whatever is bottle-necking the browser finally releases.
>
>                     jim
>
>
>
>                     On 6/6/2017 11:50 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
>
>
>                             Thanks Samuel. As a follow up, I have
>             filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629
>             <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629>
>
>
>                             Lawrence
>
>
>                             On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Samuel
>             Ambaye <[email protected]
>             <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>                                     We noticed the issue when one of
>             our users reported a similar issue following a minor
>             version ESR update:
>
>                                     Using FF 45.9.0.6310 & Windows 7.
>                                     (1) Start FF
>                                     (2) goto this URL www.lematin.ch
>             <http://www.lematin.ch> (newspaper in Geneva, Switzerland)
>                                     Results: Browser waits for the
>             page to load for two-three minutes to load (but would
>             actually load);
>                                     Results: Other browsers, No issue;
>                                     (4) Close browser
>                                     Browser hangs and requires a kill
>             process.
>                                     (5) Restart Browser and Try
>             different web sites, even ones that were ok before;
>                                     Results: Browser waits for web
>             site for over two / three minutes;
>                                     (5) Kill Process, Restart browser
>             and repeat step 2 and 5:
>                                     Same Result;
>                                     (6) Kill Process, Replace FF user
>             profile and repeat step 2 and 5:
>                                     Same Result;
>                                     (7) Uninstall FF for users who
>             were affected; Install FF 52.1.0.6316
>                                     Issue no longer reproducible
>
>                                     We hope this helps.
>
>                                     Best,
>                                     Samuel
>
>
>
>                                     >>> Jim Weill
>             <[email protected]
>             <mailto:[email protected]>> 19/05/2017 00:17 >>>
>
>                                     I notice the issue when I first
>             open FF in the morning on Windows 7 Pro
>                                     x64 machines.  After that I cannot
>             come up with a reliable way to
>                                     reproduce this issue, other than
>             it happens at random times throughout
>                                     the day.
>
>                                     I do not notice this on Mac OSX
>             10.12 at all (we have a few of these).
>                                     And I have not polled our Linux
>             users on this issue, so I do not know
>                                     where that stands.
>
>                                     Is there something in the dev
>             tools that I can leave open when this
>                                     happens again to try to narrow
>             this down?  I've had this happen several
>                                     times today already.
>
>                                     jim
>
>
>                                     On 5/11/2017 11:51 AM, Phil
>             Pishioneri wrote:
>                                     > On 5/11/17 2:06 PM, Julien
>             Cristau wrote:
>                                     >> we've filed a bug at
>                                     >>
>             https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865
>             <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865>
>             <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865
>             <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865>> to
>             investigate
>                                     >> the issue reported in this
>             thread. Unfortunately so far we haven't
>                                     >> been able to reproduce this
>             internally.  Does anyone on this thread
>                                     >> have a reliable way to
>             reproduce the problem you've seen?  If this is
>                                     >> also reproducible with the
>             non-ESR Firefox releases, knowing which
>                                     >> version introduced it would
>             also help narrow down the search.
>                                     >
>                                     > I've had very reproducible
>             delays since (non-ESR) release 48. I found
>                                     > it related to syncing of my
>             (large) bookmarks. Whenever the sync
>                                     > process starts (this can be
>             "random", especially if a Firefox is
>                                     > active on another host syncing
>             to the same account), Firefox's UI
>                                     > locks up for a few seconds. On a
>             Mac, I get the spinning beach ball;
>                                     > on Windows, I'll get the window
>             title bar message about the process
>                                     > not responding; I don't recall
>             the behavior on Linux, other than
>                                     > Firefox becomes unresponsive.
>             Creating a new bookmark also starts a
>                                     > sync (and, it'll start while the
>             "Bookmark This Page" window is open).
>                                     >
>                                     > My circumvention was to find the
>             host name being used for my sync, and
>                                     > put in an override in my
>             client's hosts file that maps the name to
>                                     > loopback 127.0.0.1, then
>             commenting that out and manually starting a
>                                     > sync when I need it (then
>             uncomment it again afterward).
>                                     >
>                                     > My multiprocess status is off on
>             all of these platforms due to
>                                     > incompatible extensions.
>                                     >
>                                     > -Phil
>                                     >
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 18:15:03 +0000
From: Hendrik Noack <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from
        45.9->52.1 ESR
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I have the same problem when I try to open www.der-postillion.com 
<http://www.der-postillion.com> . The page starts loading and then takes a 
longer break where FF is completely hanging. After 4 ? 5 minutes FF continues 
to load the page.

 

2017-07-24 17:57:32.938000 UTC - [Socket Thread]: D/nsSocketTransport STS poll 
iter

2017-07-24 17:57:32.938000 UTC - [Socket Thread]: D/nsSocketTransport   calling 
PR_Poll [active=0 idle=0]

2017-07-24 17:57:32.938000 UTC - [Socket Thread]: D/nsSocketTransport     
timeout = -1 milliseconds

2017-07-24 18:02:44.666000 UTC - [Main Thread]: D/nsHostResolver Resolving host 
[www-blogger-opensocial.googleusercontent.com].

2017-07-24 18:02:44.666000 UTC - [Main Thread]: D/nsHostResolver   No usable 
address in cache for host [www-blogger-opensocial.googleusercontent.com].

2017-07-24 18:02:44.667000 UTC - [Main Thread]: D/nsHostResolver   DNS thread 
counters: total=1 any-live=0 idle=0 pending=1

2017-07-24 18:02:44.667000 UTC - [Main Thread]: D/nsHostResolver   DNS lookup 
for host [www-blogger-opensocial.googleusercontent.com] blocking pending 
'getaddrinfo' query: callback [2742d118a60]

2017-07-24 18:02:44.667000 UTC - [Main Thread]: V/nsHttp 
HttpBaseChannel::SetRequestHeader [this=27463ad7000 header="DNT" value="1" 
merge=0]

 

As you can see the hanging occours between 17:57:32 and 18:02:44. Every click 
on a link on that page gives me another break.

 

The full log can be downloaded here: 
https://www.schwabstrasse.me/owncloud/s/P76A2DCfUzqBx8G

 

 

 

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Von: Enterprise [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von Lawrence 
Mandel
Gesendet: Montag, 24. Juli 2017 18:11
An: Andrew C Aitchison <[email protected]>
Cc: enterprise owner <[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

 

Given the report about this still being an issue in 52.2.1 we're still 
investigating. The developers have requested an http log from someone who is 
able to reproduce the issue. Details on creating an http log at are

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/HTTP_logging#Using_aboutnetworking

Thanks,

Lawrence

 

On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Andrew C Aitchison <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:


Or, could the delay be some DNS lookup which times out ?

Firefox has its own DNS cache (which can be overridden).
Maybe the switch to multi-threading has done something to the DNS handling ?



On Sat, 1 Jul 2017, stein.wm wrote:

Perhaps it's the Virus Protection. E. g. on my PC a new version of Avira (after 
last product update from 2017-June-02) now tries to sent requests home with 
every suspection or internet request. If the firewall blocks this, the virus 
protection delays the start of the intercepted module for a trial period of 
about half a minute. 
But this effect should also occur with other software, it is not limited to the 
new Firefox version. 
stein.wm


-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Enterprise [mailto:[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> ] Im Auftrag von Remy Molenaar
Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Juli 2017 08:50
An: Jim Weill
Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from 45.9->52.1 
ESR

I have that problem also with the official version. I'm still not sure what the 
problem is. I've noticed that it occurs only with internet pages, none 
internal. First I thought it was my ad blocker. But I did a clean install (with 
clean profile) and having the issue back again. 

I'm on Windows 7 Pro btw.


Remy 
Op 30 jun. 2017 om 19:23 heeft Jim Weill <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > het volgende geschreven:



        I don't know about anyone else, but I am still having the slowness 
issue with Firefox, even after upgrading to the (unannounced) 52.2.1 release.  
For this reason I am pushing Chrome to our users because we cannot keep having 
random page timeouts slowing us down like this.

        I cannot find a way to recreate the issue, other than at least once per 
hour the whole browser stops loading pages and it takes anywhere from 30-60 
seconds before I can use firefox again.  I can open new tabs and start trying 
to load pages, but none of them load until whatever is bottle-necking the 
browser finally releases.

        jim



        On 6/6/2017 11:50 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:


                Thanks Samuel. As a follow up, I have filed 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629


                Lawrence


                On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Samuel Ambaye 
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:


                        We noticed the issue when one of our users reported a 
similar issue following a minor version ESR update:

                        Using FF 45.9.0.6310 & Windows 7.
                        (1) Start FF
                        (2) goto this URL www.lematin.ch 
<http://www.lematin.ch>  (newspaper in Geneva, Switzerland)
                        Results: Browser waits for the page to load for 
two-three minutes to load (but would actually load);
                        Results: Other browsers, No issue;
                        (4) Close browser
                        Browser hangs and requires a kill process.
                        (5) Restart Browser and Try different web sites, even 
ones that were ok before;
                        Results: Browser waits for web site for over two / 
three minutes;
                        (5) Kill Process, Restart browser and repeat step 2 and 
5:
                        Same Result;
                        (6) Kill Process, Replace FF user profile and repeat 
step 2 and 5:
                        Same Result;
                        (7) Uninstall FF for users who were affected; Install 
FF 52.1.0.6316
                        Issue no longer reproducible

                        We hope this helps.

                        Best,
                        Samuel



                        >>> Jim Weill <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > 19/05/2017 00:17 >>>

                        I notice the issue when I first open FF in the morning 
on Windows 7 Pro
                        x64 machines.  After that I cannot come up with a 
reliable way to
                        reproduce this issue, other than it happens at random 
times throughout
                        the day.

                        I do not notice this on Mac OSX 10.12 at all (we have a 
few of these).
                        And I have not polled our Linux users on this issue, so 
I do not know
                        where that stands.

                        Is there something in the dev tools that I can leave 
open when this
                        happens again to try to narrow this down?  I've had 
this happen several
                        times today already.

                        jim


                        On 5/11/2017 11:51 AM, Phil Pishioneri wrote:
                        > On 5/11/17 2:06 PM, Julien Cristau wrote:
                        >> we've filed a bug at
                        >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865 
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865>  to investigate
                        >> the issue reported in this thread. Unfortunately so 
far we haven't
                        >> been able to reproduce this internally.  Does anyone 
on this thread
                        >> have a reliable way to reproduce the problem you've 
seen?  If this is
                        >> also reproducible with the non-ESR Firefox releases, 
knowing which
                        >> version introduced it would also help narrow down 
the search.
                        >
                        > I've had very reproducible delays since (non-ESR) 
release 48. I found
                        > it related to syncing of my (large) bookmarks. 
Whenever the sync
                        > process starts (this can be "random", especially if a 
Firefox is
                        > active on another host syncing to the same account), 
Firefox's UI
                        > locks up for a few seconds. On a Mac, I get the 
spinning beach ball;
                        > on Windows, I'll get the window title bar message 
about the process
                        > not responding; I don't recall the behavior on Linux, 
other than
                        > Firefox becomes unresponsive. Creating a new bookmark 
also starts a
                        > sync (and, it'll start while the "Bookmark This Page" 
window is open).
                        >
                        > My circumvention was to find the host name being used 
for my sync, and
                        > put in an override in my client's hosts file that 
maps the name to
                        > loopback 127.0.0.1, then commenting that out and 
manually starting a
                        > sync when I need it (then uncomment it again 
afterward).
                        >
                        > My multiprocess status is off on all of these 
platforms due to
                        > incompatible extensions.
                        >
                        > -Phil
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 14:55:12 -0400
From: Lawrence Mandel <[email protected]>
To: Jim Weill <[email protected]>
Cc: enterprise owner <[email protected]>,  Andrew C Aitchison
        <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from
        45.9->52.1 ESR
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Do you have access to a tool like Dropbox, Box, or Google Drive where you
can upload and share an URL?

Lawrence

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Jim Weill <[email protected]>
wrote:

> My generated logs are far larger than the bug report can upload -- four
> files were created that all come in at 45+ MB each.  Compressing them
> results in an 18MB zip file, which is still too large, even for email.  How
> do I upload these logs?
> jim
>
> On 7/24/2017 10:37 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
>
> I didn't say how to get your logs to Mozilla. Here are two ways:
>
> 1. Post your logs to Bugzilla. Use https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/s
> how_bug.cgi?id=1370629
> 2. Email your logs to me privately. Please let me know if you're OK with
> me posting your logs to Bugzilla. If not, I'll share them with the
> developers directly and ask that they be deleted when we're done analyzing
> them.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lawrence
>
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Lawrence Mandel <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Given the report about this still being an issue in 52.2.1 we're still
>> investigating. The developers have requested an http log from someone who
>> is able to reproduce the issue. Details on creating an http log at are
>>
>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/H
>> TTP_logging#Using_aboutnetworking
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Lawrence
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Andrew C Aitchison <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Or, could the delay be some DNS lookup which times out ?
>>>
>>> Firefox has its own DNS cache (which can be overridden).
>>> Maybe the switch to multi-threading has done something to the DNS
>>> handling ?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 1 Jul 2017, stein.wm wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps it's the Virus Protection. E. g. on my PC a new version of Avira
>>>> (after last product update from 2017-June-02) now tries to sent requests
>>>> home with every suspection or internet request. If the firewall blocks
>>>> this, the virus protection delays the start of the intercepted module for a
>>>> trial period of about half a minute.
>>>> But this effect should also occur with other software, it is not
>>>> limited to the new Firefox version.
>>>> stein.wm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: Enterprise [mailto:[email protected]] Im Auftrag von
>>>> Remy Molenaar
>>>> Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Juli 2017 08:50
>>>> An: Jim Weill
>>>> Cc: [email protected]
>>>> Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from
>>>> 45.9->52.1 ESR
>>>>
>>>> I have that problem also with the official version. I'm still not sure
>>>> what the problem is. I've noticed that it occurs only with internet pages,
>>>> none internal. First I thought it was my ad blocker. But I did a clean
>>>> install (with clean profile) and having the issue back again.
>>>>
>>>> I'm on Windows 7 Pro btw.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Remy
>>>> Op 30 jun. 2017 om 19:23 heeft Jim Weill <[email protected]>
>>>> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         I don't know about anyone else, but I am still having the
>>>> slowness issue with Firefox, even after upgrading to the (unannounced)
>>>> 52.2.1 release.  For this reason I am pushing Chrome to our users because
>>>> we cannot keep having random page timeouts slowing us down like this.
>>>>
>>>>         I cannot find a way to recreate the issue, other than at least
>>>> once per hour the whole browser stops loading pages and it takes anywhere
>>>> from 30-60 seconds before I can use firefox again.  I can open new tabs and
>>>> start trying to load pages, but none of them load until whatever is
>>>> bottle-necking the browser finally releases.
>>>>
>>>>         jim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         On 6/6/2017 11:50 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 Thanks Samuel. As a follow up, I have filed
>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 Lawrence
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Samuel Ambaye <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                         We noticed the issue when one of our users
>>>> reported a similar issue following a minor version ESR update:
>>>>
>>>>                         Using FF 45.9.0.6310 & Windows 7.
>>>>                         (1) Start FF
>>>>                         (2) goto this URL www.lematin.ch (newspaper in
>>>> Geneva, Switzerland)
>>>>                         Results: Browser waits for the page to load for
>>>> two-three minutes to load (but would actually load);
>>>>                         Results: Other browsers, No issue;
>>>>                         (4) Close browser
>>>>                         Browser hangs and requires a kill process.
>>>>                         (5) Restart Browser and Try different web
>>>> sites, even ones that were ok before;
>>>>                         Results: Browser waits for web site for over
>>>> two / three minutes;
>>>>                         (5) Kill Process, Restart browser and repeat
>>>> step 2 and 5:
>>>>                         Same Result;
>>>>                         (6) Kill Process, Replace FF user profile and
>>>> repeat step 2 and 5:
>>>>                         Same Result;
>>>>                         (7) Uninstall FF for users who were affected;
>>>> Install FF 52.1.0.6316
>>>>                         Issue no longer reproducible
>>>>
>>>>                         We hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>>                         Best,
>>>>                         Samuel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                         >>> Jim Weill <[email protected]>
>>>> 19/05/2017 00:17 >>>
>>>>
>>>>                         I notice the issue when I first open FF in the
>>>> morning on Windows 7 Pro
>>>>                         x64 machines.  After that I cannot come up with
>>>> a reliable way to
>>>>                         reproduce this issue, other than it happens at
>>>> random times throughout
>>>>                         the day.
>>>>
>>>>                         I do not notice this on Mac OSX 10.12 at all
>>>> (we have a few of these).
>>>>                         And I have not polled our Linux users on this
>>>> issue, so I do not know
>>>>                         where that stands.
>>>>
>>>>                         Is there something in the dev tools that I can
>>>> leave open when this
>>>>                         happens again to try to narrow this down?  I've
>>>> had this happen several
>>>>                         times today already.
>>>>
>>>>                         jim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                         On 5/11/2017 11:51 AM, Phil Pishioneri wrote:
>>>>                         > On 5/11/17 2:06 PM, Julien Cristau wrote:
>>>>                         >> we've filed a bug at
>>>>                         >> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/s
>>>> how_bug.cgi?id=1361865 <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/
>>>> show_bug.cgi?id=1361865>  to investigate
>>>>                         >> the issue reported in this thread.
>>>> Unfortunately so far we haven't
>>>>                         >> been able to reproduce this internally.
>>>> Does anyone on this thread
>>>>                         >> have a reliable way to reproduce the problem
>>>> you've seen?  If this is
>>>>                         >> also reproducible with the non-ESR Firefox
>>>> releases, knowing which
>>>>                         >> version introduced it would also help narrow
>>>> down the search.
>>>>                         >
>>>>                         > I've had very reproducible delays since
>>>> (non-ESR) release 48. I found
>>>>                         > it related to syncing of my (large)
>>>> bookmarks. Whenever the sync
>>>>                         > process starts (this can be "random",
>>>> especially if a Firefox is
>>>>                         > active on another host syncing to the same
>>>> account), Firefox's UI
>>>>                         > locks up for a few seconds. On a Mac, I get
>>>> the spinning beach ball;
>>>>                         > on Windows, I'll get the window title bar
>>>> message about the process
>>>>                         > not responding; I don't recall the behavior
>>>> on Linux, other than
>>>>                         > Firefox becomes unresponsive. Creating a new
>>>> bookmark also starts a
>>>>                         > sync (and, it'll start while the "Bookmark
>>>> This Page" window is open).
>>>>                         >
>>>>                         > My circumvention was to find the host name
>>>> being used for my sync, and
>>>>                         > put in an override in my client's hosts file
>>>> that maps the name to
>>>>                         > loopback 127.0.0.1, then commenting that out
>>>> and manually starting a
>>>>                         > sync when I need it (then uncomment it again
>>>> afterward).
>>>>                         >
>>>>                         > My multiprocess status is off on all of these
>>>> platforms due to
>>>>                         > incompatible extensions.
>>>>                         >
>>>>                         > -Phil
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2017 19:35:47 -0500
From: Scott Dodgson <[email protected]>
To: Lawrence Mandel <[email protected]>,      Jim Weill
        <[email protected]>
Cc: enterprise owner <[email protected]>,  Andrew C Aitchison
        <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages after update from
        45.9->52.1 ESR
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Here's what mine is waiting for, sometimes 10 minutes. I used to run up 
to 70 tabs open on my 3.60 gigahertz Intel Core i7-4790, 16gb ram, 2tb 
HD,. 32gb ssdi swap but not now!  Message is "wait for it......... "A 
script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. You 
can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the 
script continue.

_Script: https://ajax.googleapis.com/aj?ibs/jquery/2.1.1/jquery.min.js:2"_
I stop them. I use Google as little as I have to.

Scott

On 7/24/2017 1:55 PM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
> Do you have access to a tool like Dropbox, Box, or Google Drive where 
> you can upload and share an URL?
>
> Lawrence
>
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Jim Weill <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     My generated logs are far larger than the bug report can upload --
>     four files were created that all come in at 45+ MB each. 
>     Compressing them results in an 18MB zip file, which is still too
>     large, even for email.  How do I upload these logs?
>
>     jim
>
>     On 7/24/2017 10:37 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
>>     I didn't say how to get your logs to Mozilla. Here are two ways:
>>
>>     1. Post your logs to Bugzilla. Use
>>     https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629
>>     <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629>
>>     2. Email your logs to me privately. Please let me know if you're
>>     OK with me posting your logs to Bugzilla. If not, I'll share them
>>     with the developers directly and ask that they be deleted when
>>     we're done analyzing them.
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>
>>     Lawrence
>>
>>     On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Lawrence Mandel
>>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>         Given the report about this still being an issue in 52.2.1
>>         we're still investigating. The developers have requested an
>>         http log from someone who is able to reproduce the issue.
>>         Details on creating an http log at are
>>
>>         
>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/HTTP_logging#Using_aboutnetworking
>>         
>> <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/HTTP_logging#Using_aboutnetworking>
>>
>>         Thanks,
>>
>>         Lawrence
>>
>>         On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Andrew C Aitchison
>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>             Or, could the delay be some DNS lookup which times out ?
>>
>>             Firefox has its own DNS cache (which can be overridden).
>>             Maybe the switch to multi-threading has done something to
>>             the DNS handling ?
>>
>>
>>             On Sat, 1 Jul 2017, stein.wm wrote:
>>
>>                 Perhaps it's the Virus Protection. E. g. on my PC a
>>                 new version of Avira (after last product update from
>>                 2017-June-02) now tries to sent requests home with
>>                 every suspection or internet request. If the firewall
>>                 blocks this, the virus protection delays the start of
>>                 the intercepted module for a trial period of about
>>                 half a minute.
>>                 But this effect should also occur with other
>>                 software, it is not limited to the new Firefox version.
>>                 stein.wm
>>
>>
>>                 -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
>>                 Von: Enterprise
>>                 [mailto:[email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>] Im Auftrag
>>                 von Remy Molenaar
>>                 Gesendet: Samstag, 1. Juli 2017 08:50
>>                 An: Jim Weill
>>                 Cc: [email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>
>>                 Betreff: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Super slow pages
>>                 after update from 45.9->52.1 ESR
>>
>>                 I have that problem also with the official version.
>>                 I'm still not sure what the problem is. I've noticed
>>                 that it occurs only with internet pages, none
>>                 internal. First I thought it was my ad blocker. But I
>>                 did a clean install (with clean profile) and having
>>                 the issue back again.
>>
>>                 I'm on Windows 7 Pro btw.
>>
>>
>>                 Remy
>>                 Op 30 jun. 2017 om 19:23 heeft Jim Weill
>>                 <[email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> het volgende
>>                 geschreven:
>>
>>
>>
>>                         I don't know about anyone else, but I am
>>                 still having the slowness issue with Firefox, even
>>                 after upgrading to the (unannounced) 52.2.1 release. 
>>                 For this reason I am pushing Chrome to our users
>>                 because we cannot keep having random page timeouts
>>                 slowing us down like this.
>>
>>                         I cannot find a way to recreate the issue,
>>                 other than at least once per hour the whole browser
>>                 stops loading pages and it takes anywhere from 30-60
>>                 seconds before I can use firefox again.  I can open
>>                 new tabs and start trying to load pages, but none of
>>                 them load until whatever is bottle-necking the
>>                 browser finally releases.
>>
>>                         jim
>>
>>
>>
>>                         On 6/6/2017 11:50 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
>>
>>
>>                                 Thanks Samuel. As a follow up, I have
>>                 filed
>>                 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629
>>                 <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370629>
>>
>>
>>                                 Lawrence
>>
>>
>>                                 On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:22 AM,
>>                 Samuel Ambaye <[email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>                                         We noticed the issue when one
>>                 of our users reported a similar issue following a
>>                 minor version ESR update:
>>
>>                                         Using FF 45.9.0.6310 & Windows 7.
>>                                         (1) Start FF
>>                                         (2) goto this URL
>>                 www.lematin.ch <http://www.lematin.ch> (newspaper in
>>                 Geneva, Switzerland)
>>                 Results: Browser waits for the page to load for
>>                 two-three minutes to load (but would actually load);
>>                 Results: Other browsers, No issue;
>>                                         (4) Close browser
>>                 Browser hangs and requires a kill process.
>>                                         (5) Restart Browser and Try
>>                 different web sites, even ones that were ok before;
>>                 Results: Browser waits for web site for over two /
>>                 three minutes;
>>                                         (5) Kill Process, Restart
>>                 browser and repeat step 2 and 5:
>>                                         Same Result;
>>                                         (6) Kill Process, Replace FF
>>                 user profile and repeat step 2 and 5:
>>                                         Same Result;
>>                                         (7) Uninstall FF for users
>>                 who were affected; Install FF 52.1.0.6316
>>                                         Issue no longer reproducible
>>
>>                                         We hope this helps.
>>
>>                                         Best,
>>                                         Samuel
>>
>>
>>
>>                 >>> Jim Weill <[email protected]
>>                 <mailto:[email protected]>> 19/05/2017 00:17 >>>
>>
>>                                         I notice the issue when I
>>                 first open FF in the morning on Windows 7 Pro
>>                                         x64 machines.  After that I
>>                 cannot come up with a reliable way to
>>                 reproduce this issue, other than it happens at random
>>                 times throughout
>>                                         the day.
>>
>>                                         I do not notice this on Mac
>>                 OSX 10.12 at all (we have a few of these).
>>                                         And I have not polled our
>>                 Linux users on this issue, so I do not know
>>                                         where that stands.
>>
>>                                         Is there something in the dev
>>                 tools that I can leave open when this
>>                 happens again to try to narrow this down?  I've had
>>                 this happen several
>>                                         times today already.
>>
>>                                         jim
>>
>>
>>                                         On 5/11/2017 11:51 AM, Phil
>>                 Pishioneri wrote:
>>                                         > On 5/11/17 2:06 PM, Julien
>>                 Cristau wrote:
>>                 >> we've filed a bug at
>>                 >>
>>                 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865
>>                 <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865>
>>                 <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865
>>                 <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1361865>>
>>                 to investigate
>>                 >> the issue reported in this thread. Unfortunately
>>                 so far we haven't
>>                 >> been able to reproduce this internally. Does
>>                 anyone on this thread
>>                 >> have a reliable way to reproduce the problem
>>                 you've seen?  If this is
>>                 >> also reproducible with the non-ESR Firefox
>>                 releases, knowing which
>>                 >> version introduced it would also help narrow down
>>                 the search.
>>                                         >
>>                                         > I've had very reproducible
>>                 delays since (non-ESR) release 48. I found
>>                                         > it related to syncing of my
>>                 (large) bookmarks. Whenever the sync
>>                                         > process starts (this can be
>>                 "random", especially if a Firefox is
>>                                         > active on another host
>>                 syncing to the same account), Firefox's UI
>>                                         > locks up for a few seconds.
>>                 On a Mac, I get the spinning beach ball;
>>                                         > on Windows, I'll get the
>>                 window title bar message about the process
>>                                         > not responding; I don't
>>                 recall the behavior on Linux, other than
>>                                         > Firefox becomes
>>                 unresponsive. Creating a new bookmark also starts a
>>                                         > sync (and, it'll start
>>                 while the "Bookmark This Page" window is open).
>>                                         >
>>                                         > My circumvention was to
>>                 find the host name being used for my sync, and
>>                                         > put in an override in my
>>                 client's hosts file that maps the name to
>>                                         > loopback 127.0.0.1, then
>>                 commenting that out and manually starting a
>>                                         > sync when I need it (then
>>                 uncomment it again afterward).
>>                                         >
>>                                         > My multiprocess status is
>>                 off on all of these platforms due to
>>                                         > incompatible extensions.
>>                                         >
>>                                         > -Phil
>>                                         >
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