On 29/11/2017 10:56, James Pearson wrote:
> Informatique wrote:
>> Dear fellow sysadmins,
>>
>> These episodes of bunch of guys trying to get out of the list and
>> figuring how to do so happens quite frequently. They are not techies
>> (otherwise they would figure out how to unsubscribe themselves),
>> showing that they should not have subscribed in the first place. It
>> appears that there is a flaw somewhere : either they were misdirected
>> to their list, either they got subscribed without  their (informed)
>> consent.
>>
>> Is it possible for list admins to investigate the problem ? How these
>> people get subscribed here ? Is it possible that there's a bot
>> filling adresses in this list ? (to test them ? that would be
>> weird…)
> I believe the 'problem' is the web page at:
>
>   https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/
>
> This is the page that most people will arrive at when searching for info 
> about the ESR release
>
> Unfortunately, the terminology on that page 'implies' that you need to 
> sign up to this list before doing anything else ... i.e. using the term 
> 'Step' normally means you need to complete 'Step 1' (sign up to the 
> list) before proceeding to 'Step 2' (download ESR)
>
> I definitely got that impression when I was looking for info about ESR 
> over 5 years ago (although I wanted to sign up!) - so I'm not surprised 
> so many people join this list 'by mistake'
>
> My suggestion would be to get that page changed and replace the 'Step 1' 
> and 'Step 2' paragraphs with something like:
>
> * Review our handy FAQ about Firefox ESR [link]
>
> * Download Firefox ESR [link]
>
> * Join the Enterprise Working Group (EWG) mailing list [link] to discuss 
> deploying and configuring Firefox ESR with other community members and 
> receive regular communications regarding product updates and support
>
>
> i.e. no mention of 'Steps' or 'strongly encouraging' list membership :-)
>
> My guess is that those just interested in finding out about basics of 
> ESR or just wanting to download it, will have followed the FAQ or 
> download links and left the page so never get to the mail list link ... 
> i.e. only those that _really_ want to sign up will follow the list link
You are probably right.
I will make sure we address that soon. It is surprising to have potential 
sysadmin unaware of
the (un)subscription process of a mailman mailing list.

Thanks,
Sylvestre


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