If it were a proper .msi and not .exe wrapper all those problems could
go away. However I prefer .exe -wrapper that doesn't leave any trace of
itself behind than something that pollutes computer with .msi reg
entries and leaves them behind when user decides to uninstall program
using helper.exe (or ARP that uses helper.exe instead of msiexec /x).
So for all the evils not leaving any trace of it being .msi is the
lesser evil IMO.
Timo Pietilä
On 25.10.2019 13.24, Gage, John wrote:
I'm with you on that, Will - I don't feel that this should be "expected behavior" or "by design" for the MSI binaries.
The allure of using MSIs is for classic win32 app consistency and convenience that "msiexec" brings for both installation and
uninstallation by using the product code GUID. At the moment, the uninstaller uses "helper.exe", so I assume that switching to
"msiexec /x" would require some work to get it performing the same actions as what "helper.exe" does now.
-----Original Message-----
From: Enterprise <[email protected]> On Behalf Of William Spratt
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 6:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Firefox msi detection in SCCM
EXTERNAL EMAIL
Thank for the quick response, Timo and John,
I've had .msi installers in the past that barely did more than populate the
application name. I'm assuming this aspect does something else, and populating
the detection method is a side-effect... otherwise I fail to see the point.
To be honest, if I have to populate the setting manually, I might just go back
to the .exe method. Is there any benefit to using the .msi I'm not seeing?
Regards
Will
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-----Original Message-----
From: Enterprise <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Gage, John
Sent: 25 October 2019 10:50
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Firefox msi detection in SCCM
Just adding confirmation to Timo's comments that using the MSI GUID will not
work.
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Will, I use SCCM heavily, and for my Firefox ESR Application's "Detection Method", I use
the following "Detection Rule" instead of the MSI GUID:
Setting Type: Registry
Hive: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
Key: SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Uninstall\Mozilla Firefox 68.2.0
ESR (x64 en-US)
Value: DisplayVersion
Data Type: String
Radio Button selection: "This registry setting must exist on the target system to
indicate presence of this application"
There are many other detection method variants that will work; just keep in mind that if Mozilla ever changes
the reg key naming scheme to not include the version and/or lang, this detection method could break. At that
point you can just use the other radio button selection of "This registry setting must satisfy the
following rule to indicate the presence of this application" and set the Operator to
"Contains" and whatever the version is in the "Value" field.
-----Original Message-----
From: Enterprise <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Timo Pietilä
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 5:28 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Mozilla Enterprise] Firefox msi detection in SCCM
EXTERNAL EMAIL
AFAIK that is by design. That msi is exe-wrapper and after install there is no
trace that it was installed using .msi. You can't uninstall it using msiexec /x
{productcode} either.
You need to treat it like if it were installed using .exe.
Timo Pietilä
On 25.10.2019 11.52, William Spratt wrote:
Hi All,
So with the 68.2 ESR release, I thought I'd try pushing it out with
the new .msi installer.
We use SCCM to push out Firefox, and this has worked fine with the
.exe versions, manually configuring SCCM to check the file version of
"C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox.exe" to verify the
install/update was successful. When we import the 68.2 .msi into SCCM,
it does handy things like automatically populate the install detection
method to check for {1294A4C5-9977-480F-9497-C0EA1E630130} in the msi
directory. Unfortunately, while the Firefox .msi runs successfully,
installing/updating to 68.2, it doesn't detect that reference in the
.msi directory.
Has anyone else experienced this? Should I log a bug report?
Regards
Will
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