New to the list, but not new to these characters; thanks again guys for a
great product.
I'm sure this has been covered many times, but if someone wouldn't mind
answering it just once more:
What should I watch out for when converting a very large database of email
and contacts from OE 5 to Entourage? Is there a lot of manual intervention?
Are there some precautions I should take in case I end up in one of the
failure modes?
TIA for any help.
Barry
> From: "Entourage:mac Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 20:00:01 -0800
> To: "Entourage:mac Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Entourage-Talk Digest - 11/05/00
>
> Entourage-Talk Digest - Sunday, November 05, 2000
>
> Re: Report on Entourage AppleScripting
> by "Dan Crevier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: Comma delimited export
> by "Allen Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: Report on Entourage AppleScripting
> by "Paul Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: Comma delimited export
> by "Sue Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: Entourage calendar question
> by "Allen Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: Report on Entourage AppleScripting
> by "Paul Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> OT: Control Panel conflict with Word/Excel
> by "Sue Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: John Carlsen OUT OF rehab; eMA & eMK Safe!
> by "Allen Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: Nervous about deleting categories
> by "Allen Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: OT: Control Panel conflict with Word/Excel
> by "Paul Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> New/revised/translated scripts posted
> by "Allen Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: Work address in Contacts
> by "Allen Watson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: Report on Entourage AppleScripting
> by "Bill Cheeseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: New/revised/translated scripts posted
> by "Bruce Gerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Useful bookmarks
> by "Diane Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: OT: Control Panel conflict with Word/Excel
> by "Diane Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: OT: Control Panel conflict with Word/Excel
> by "Sue Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: Report on Entourage AppleScripting
> by "Dan Crevier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> From: Dan Crevier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, November 5, 2000 10:11 AM
> Subject: Re: Report on Entourage AppleScripting
>
> On 11/5/2000 2:55 AM, "Bill Cheeseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> on 11/4/00 11:40 PM, Dan Crevier at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/3/2000 11:32 AM, "Bill Cheeseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> And there's something wrong with categories. A contact's Category and Links
>>>> properties both return lists, yet you have to jump through an extra hoop or
>>>> two to get at the Category list (for example, in some contexts I have to
>>>> refer to "its category" while I don't have to do that for Links in the same
>>>> context).
>>>
>>> Can you give an example? I know that whose clauses are broken, but what
>>> else isn't behaving as you'd expect.
>>
>> tell application "Microsoft Entourage"
>> tell contact 1
>> set myCategories to category --> category
>> -- set aCategory to item 1 of myCategories --> error:Can't get item
>> 1 of category
>> set myCategories to category of it --> {category id 6 of application
>> "Microsoft Entourage"}
>> set aCategory to item 1 of result --> category id 6 of application
>> "Microsoft Entourage"
>> name of aCategory --> "Family"
>> end tell
>> end tell
>>
>> You don't have to use "of it" when you run the same script to get links of
>> contact 1.
>
> Ahh. The problem is that category is both the name of a class and the name
> of a property, and this confuses AppleScript sometimes. Maybe I should have
> chosen a different name for the property to get around this problem.
>
> Dan
>
>
> From: Allen Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, November 5, 2000 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: Comma delimited export
>
> What kind of data do you want to export? Messages? Contacts and fields?
> Appointments? Tasks?
> --
> Peace,
> Allen Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> XNS name: =Allen Watson
> A Mac family since 1984
> My web page: <http://home.earthlink.net/~allenwatson/>
>
>> From: Ari Kahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: "Entourage:mac Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 12:14:11 +0200
>> To: "Entourage:mac Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Comma delimited export
>>
>> Currently Entourage only exports in it�s own format. I have some
>> applications that only read comma delimited formats. Does anyone know of a
>> script that will export selected data in comma delimited text?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Ari
>> They say its the Early Bird that gets the worm,
>> but its the second mouse that gets the cheese...
>>
>>
>
>
> From: Paul Berkowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, November 5, 2000 10:41 AM
> Subject: Re: Report on Entourage AppleScripting
>
> On 11/5/00 9:33 AM, "Paul Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>> You don't have to use "of it" when you run the same script to get links of
>>> contact 1.
>>
>> Yes, I saw this too. Here 'category' is behaving only as a property of the
>> application rather than as a property of the contact object unless
>> explicitly told "of it" or "of contact 1". That is not the case with any
>> other element's properties in Entourage, not just 'links' (although it's the
>> obvious direct comparison since links is also a list).
>
> Sorry, I should have said:
>
>
> Here 'category' is behaving only as an _element_ of the
> application rather than as a property of the contact object.
>
> I.e., a 'class', as Dan says.
>
> --
> Paul Berkowitz
>
>
> From: Sue Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, November 5, 2000 10:53 AM
> Subject: Re: Comma delimited export
>
> On 11/5/00 10:10 AM, "Dan Crevier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On 11/5/2000 2:14 AM, "Ari Kahn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Currently Entourage only exports in it�s own format. I have some
>>> applications
>>> that only read comma delimited formats. Does anyone know of a script that
>>> will export selected data in comma delimited text?
>>
>> What type of objects are you talking about? If you are referring to
>> contacts, Entourage currently exports to a tab delimited format, which is
>> more common than comma delimited. If you need comma delimited, you could
>> just open the resulting file up in Word or some other text editor and do a
>> search and replace, replacing tab with a comma. You might run into trouble
>> if you have commas in any of the data fields.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>
>
> Actually, couldn't you open the tab-delimited file in Excel then do a Save
> As and specify a CSV (Comma Separated Value) format? I've done this in the
> past so that I could build my Yahoo address book and calendar.
>
> sue
> --
> "I prefer Hostess Fruit Cakes to Pop Tarts because there's less cooking
> involved." The Splendid Table (11/04/00)
>
>
> From: Allen Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, November 5, 2000 10:54 AM
> Subject: Re: Entourage calendar question
>
> I run an iMac and an iBook, and I've actually considered buying a Visor
> (Palm Pilot competitor) to let me sync them.
>
> Currently, since they are in the same location, I connect them with an
> Ethernet crossover cable, fire up AppleTalk and FileSharing, and copy the
> MUD folder from the recently active machine to the one needing to be
> updated. I have to be careful to do all my mail work on one machine and not
> the other, or I will lose something in the copy. For instance, if I am
> working primarily on the iBook but send a message or two from the iMac, then
> when I copy from iBook to iMac I will lose those messages. Unless I cc them
> to myself and receive them on the iBook. So it is less than perfect.
> --
> Peace,
> Allen Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> XNS name: =Allen Watson
> A Mac family since 1984
> My web page: <http://home.earthlink.net/~allenwatson/>
>
>> From: Steve Sell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>> Well, if you have a Palm, you can use it to sync to both machines. Aside
>> from that, there isn't really a way to do it, that I know of (I use the Palm
>> method).
>
>
>
> From: Paul Berkowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, November 5, 2000 11:02 AM
> Subject: Re: Report on Entourage AppleScripting
>
> On 11/5/00 9:26 AM, I wrote:
>
>> On 11/4/00 8:40 PM, "Dan Crevier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> (Tim wrote:)
>>>> How about adding an option "as html" to the get and set text verbs? It
>>>> is easy enough to parse html, and this would solve a lot of other
>>>> problems to, regarding creating html messages.
>>>
>>> And, "as unicode html", of course. :-) This isn't totally easy though.
>>> You go from being able to just take text & more text to having to parse
>>> out the </body> tag and quote any text you want to insert ( & -> &,
>>> etc), and then stick it back it. Is this something people would really
>>> do?
>>
>> I don't think so, not many anyhow. I don't think this would be such a
>> great solution. Especially if it too would be a lot of work, I'd much
>> prefer to see full support for the text suite further down the road.
>>
>
> I'll revise that. Akua Sweets scripting addition has a great HTML Suite that
> makes all this easy. (parse ML, compile ML, add table, parse table, compile
> table, parse tag, compile tag, parse tag val, compile tag val, resolve SRC
> tag, with a Class HTML Table Rec and Class URL Path). If you could
> incorporate that suite under a license from Akua, I'd go along with this as
> a solution. If MBU can farm out Dictionaries to outside contractors, why
> not a scripting addition suite, if it saves everyone a lot of trouble?
>
>
> --
> Paul Berkowitz
>
>
> From: Sue Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, November 5, 2000 11:17 AM
> Subject: OT: Control Panel conflict with Word/Excel
>
> As I reported earlier, I have been unable to see extended menus in Word:mac
> and Excel:mac. Today I did the dreaded limit theory elimination of system
> folder conflicts and discovered that one of my favorite warhorses PICTify
> 1.51 is the culprit. So I'm hoping someone knows of an alternative to
> Cmd-Shift-4 for screen shots which also allows me to name the file and save
> it anywhere I happen to need it.
>
> TIA sue
> --
> PowerBook 3400c/200, 80M RAM with VM on, OS 8.6, a kajillion extensions
>
>
> From: Allen Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, November 5, 2000 11:24 AM
> Subject: Re: John Carlsen OUT OF rehab; eMA & eMK Safe!
>
> Hooray! Glad to hear from you, John. I'll be downloading the Entourage
> "beta" eMA soon and giving it a try.
> --
> Peace,
> Allen Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> XNS name: =Allen Watson
> A Mac family since 1984
> My web page: <http://home.earthlink.net/~allenwatson/>
>
>> From: W John Carlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: "Entourage:mac Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 14:08:49 -0500
>> To: Entourage mac Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: John Carlsen OUT OF rehab; eMA & eMK Safe!
>>
>> Just a note to say I'm alive, and will be back "soon".
>
>
> From: Allen Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, November 5, 2000 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: Nervous about deleting categories
>
> I think what can be disconcerting is what happens when you filter on a
> category, say "Dunces", and then select a subset and remove the category.
> They all disappear from the list of contacts being displayed. But that is
> because they no longer match the filter being applied. They are still on
> file.
> --
> Peace,
> Allen Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> XNS name: =Allen Watson
> A Mac family since 1984
> My web page: <http://home.earthlink.net/~allenwatson/>
>
>> From: Image One Solutions� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: "Entourage:mac Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 16:36:23 -0500
>> To: Entourage mac Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: Nervous about deleting categories
>>
>> This just unmark's them. I did it and it defaults them back to the "none"
>> category.
>>
>>
>>> When I delete categories, Entourage says this operation is undoable
>>> (understandable) and seems to delete my items! Is it just unmarking them, or
>>> is it actually trashing my stuff? The dialog box should be more descriptive,
>>> IMHO.
>>>
>>> K
>>>
>>> |
>>> | kyle demilo
>>> | fixing macs for a long time, now (honest).
>>> | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> | aol instant messenger: PB1400User
>>> |
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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>
>
> From: Paul Berkowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, November 5, 2000 11:30 AM
> Subject: Re: OT: Control Panel conflict with Word/Excel
>
> On 11/5/00 11:17 AM, "Sue Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> As I reported earlier, I have been unable to see extended menus in Word:mac
>> and Excel:mac. Today I did the dreaded limit theory elimination of system
>> folder conflicts and discovered that one of my favorite warhorses PICTify
>> 1.51 is the culprit. So I'm hoping someone knows of an alternative to
>> Cmd-Shift-4 for screen shots which also allows me to name the file and save
>> it anywhere I happen to need it.
>>
>> TIA sue
>
>
> PixelPipe does all that and more. Free, too. I don't have the URL, because
> someone once sent it to me without documentation. If you can't find it at
> versiontracker or MacFixit (I'm sure you can), I'll send it to you.
>
> --
> Paul Berkowitz
>
>
> From: Allen Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, November 5, 2000 11:32 AM
> Subject: New/revised/translated scripts posted
>
> I have posted the following scripts to my web site. They are either newly
> translated from OE, entirely new, or revised versions of script previously
> posted, to fix bugs and improve efficiency.
>
> <http://homepage.mac.com/allenwatson/>
>
> Contacts:Find Dupe Contacts\cmD
>
> Bug fixes; locates pairs of duplicate contacts in Address Book. Was failing
> in certain cases, and was missing some duplicates. Improved speed and
> accuracy.
>
> Contacts:Flag all dupe contacts
>
> Same as above but simply assigns a category ("Possible Duplicate" by
> default) to all suspected duplicates. You can then process them at your
> leisure.
>
> Contacts:Merge Contacts v2\cmM
>
> Merges all fields of two contacts. Flags one (for later deletion).
>
> Contacts:Open Contact Name E
>
> Opens contact record by name.
>
> Contacts:Select Flagged Contacts
>
> Find all contacts that have been flagged and select them. Useful after
> merging contacts to delete flagged contacts.
>
> Edit Text:Replace %
>
> Replace "%xx" codes in some emails; lines ending with "=".
>
> Edit Text:ROT13 Encode/Decode v2
>
> Simple encoding decoding. Requires Tanaka's Osax (see my osax directory).
>
> Export/Import:Entourage Many to Word v1.0
>
> Translated version of the favorite OE script (MacAddict CD selection). Write
> one or more messages to a Word file.
>
> Extract:Burst Digest (cX)
>
> Simple script to use Microsoft Entourage's "burst" command to burst a digest
> manually, rather than in a MLM rule.
>
> Extract:Burst Malformed Digest
>
> Port of the OE script to handle weird digest formats.
>
> Extract:Burst OneList Digest PK
>
> Port of Phil Kearney's script to burst OneList/Egroups digests; this seems
> unneeded in Microsoft Entourage, the "burst" command handles it.
>
> Extract:Burst Universal \cX
>
> The script I use to burst all digests I receive; uses "burst" for most and
> "Burst malformed" if that does not work. You can select multiple digests to
> burst.
>
> Extract:Message from Digest\moE
>
> Select a single message in a digest, run this script to produce a separate
> incoming message.
>
> Insert:Insert Explorer Address
>
> Inserts address of the web page in IE's front window.
>
> Message Operations:Open enclosing folder\mo0
>
> Select a message; this script will open the folder it is in. Useful when you
> find a message with "find" or a custom view and want to see more in the same
> folder.
>
> New Messages/Addresses:Insert boilerplate
>
> Insert from selected boilerplate text file.
>
> New Messages/Addresses:Msg from template message
>
> Insert template Microsoft Entourage mail message (stored in TEMPLATES
> folder).
>
> Utilities:Count Messages in Folders
>
> Produces a listing showing how many messsages are in each folder.
>
> Utilities:Open Calendar List View\mocL
>
> Does just what it says.
>
> Utilities:Remove eGroups ads
>
> Translated from OE version. Improved to remove some other ads as well.
>
> --
> Peace be with you!
> Allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> XNS Name: =Allen Watson
> My web page: <http://home.earthlink.net/~allenwatson/>
>
>
> From: Allen Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, November 5, 2000 11:38 AM
> Subject: Re: Work address in Contacts
>
>
>> From: George Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Allen, do you have something that seems to work for this?
>
> No, I have not tried it.
> --
> Peace,
> Allen Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> XNS name: =Allen Watson
> A Mac family since 1984
> My web page: <http://home.earthlink.net/~allenwatson/>
>
>
> From: Bill Cheeseman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, November 5, 2000 11:39 AM
> Subject: Re: Report on Entourage AppleScripting
>
> on 11/5/00 1:11 PM, Dan Crevier at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Ahh. The problem is that category is both the name of a class and the name
>> of a property, and this confuses AppleScript sometimes. Maybe I should have
>> chosen a different name for the property to get around this problem.
>
> "Categories" would be the best name for the property -- plural, just as the
> "links" property is plural. But I suppose this runs into the plural of the
> category class, anyway.
>
> -
> Bill Cheeseman, Quechee, Vermont <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> The AppleScript Sourcebook <http://www.AppleScriptSourcebook.com/>
>
>
> From: Bruce Gerson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, November 5, 2000 11:41 AM
> Subject: Re: New/revised/translated scripts posted
>
> On 11/5/00 11:32 AM, Allen Watson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> I have posted the following scripts to my web site.
>
> Allen, any chance of creating a single archive with ALL of your Entourage
> scripts to facilitate downloading?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bruce
>
>
> From: Diane Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, November 5, 2000 12:30 PM
> Subject: Useful bookmarks
>
> Here are a couple of worthwhile links on the MS site:
>
>
> Howto:
>
> <http://support.microsoft.com/support/Entourage/HowTo/2001hwto.asp>
>
>
> FAQ:
>
> <http://support.microsoft.com/support/Entourage/FAQ/2001faq.asp>
>
> --
> Diane
>
>
> From: Diane Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, November 5, 2000 12:30 PM
> Subject: Re: OT: Control Panel conflict with Word/Excel
>
> On 11/05/2000 11:30 AM, "Paul Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On 11/5/00 11:17 AM, "Sue Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> As I reported earlier, I have been unable to see extended menus in Word:mac
>>> and Excel:mac. Today I did the dreaded limit theory elimination of system
>>> folder conflicts and discovered that one of my favorite warhorses PICTify
>>> 1.51 is the culprit. So I'm hoping someone knows of an alternative to
>>> Cmd-Shift-4 for screen shots which also allows me to name the file and save
>>> it anywhere I happen to need it.
>>>
>>> TIA sue
>>
>>
>> PixelPipe does all that and more. Free, too. I don't have the URL, because
>> someone once sent it to me without documentation. If you can't find it at
>> versiontracker or MacFixit (I'm sure you can), I'll send it to you.
>
> SnapzPro (shareware) is an excellent application. You can set to save as
> gif, jpg, or pict. The newest version has gotten lots more features and also
> very pricey. You might want to checkout Flash-It.
>
> Just remember to set it to GIFs for screen shots, JPEG for photos. These
> are much smaller then the PICT format.
>
> --
> Diane
>
>
>
> From: Sue Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, November 5, 2000 2:16 PM
> Subject: Re: OT: Control Panel conflict with Word/Excel
>
> On 11/5/00 11:30 AM, "Paul Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On 11/5/00 11:17 AM, "Sue Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> As I reported earlier, I have been unable to see extended menus in Word:mac
>>> and Excel:mac. Today I did the dreaded limit theory elimination of system
>>> folder conflicts and discovered that one of my favorite warhorses PICTify
>>> 1.51 is the culprit. So I'm hoping someone knows of an alternative to
>>> Cmd-Shift-4 for screen shots which also allows me to name the file and save
>>> it anywhere I happen to need it.
>>>
>>> TIA sue
>>
>>
>> PixelPipe does all that and more. Free, too. I don't have the URL, because
>> someone once sent it to me without documentation. If you can't find it at
>> versiontracker or MacFixit (I'm sure you can), I'll send it to you.
>
> Hey Paul. Found PixelPipe via Google -- it seems to be very powerful but
> not at screen capture. I do like the batch conversion features though and
> may have found a new favorite warhorse for that. Thanks for the pointer.
>
> sue
> --
> PowerBook 3400c/200, 80M RAM with VM on, OS 8.6, a kajillion extensions
>
>
> From: Dan Crevier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sunday, November 5, 2000 2:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Report on Entourage AppleScripting
>
> On 11/5/2000 11:39 AM, "Bill Cheeseman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> on 11/5/00 1:11 PM, Dan Crevier at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> Ahh. The problem is that category is both the name of a class and the name
>>> of a property, and this confuses AppleScript sometimes. Maybe I should have
>>> chosen a different name for the property to get around this problem.
>>
>> "Categories" would be the best name for the property -- plural, just as the
>> "links" property is plural. But I suppose this runs into the plural of the
>> category class, anyway.
>
> The way plurals work in an AppleScript dictionary, it's impossible to name
> the property categories. I considered "category list". Maybe that would
> have been better.
>
> Dan
>
>
> End of Entourage-Talk Digest
>
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