On 11/16/2000 3:44 PM, "Michael W. Wellman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> It would also be in keeping with Apple's guidelines for CM's. To quote from
>> Inside Macintosh: Mac OS 8 Human Interface Guidelines, Chapter 4 - Menu
>> Guidelines 
>> <http://developer.apple.com/techpubs/mac/HIGOS8Guide/thig-56.html>, "You
>> should never place a command in a contextual menu which is disabled in or
>> cannot be chosen from another menu in the application."
> 
> Um, I've always parsed that guideline to mean that you should be able to
> access functionality via the Contextual Menu that is
>  1) Currently disabled in the normal UI
>  2) Or *only* available via the Contextual menu.
> 
> But I now note that the Finder seemingly disagrees with my interpretation
> and, so far as I can tell in 5 minutes of dinking around, never has disabled
> items in its Contextual Menu.
> 
> I hate it when that happens... ;-)
> 
>> Removing disabled items is what makes a contextual menu "contextual".
> 
> While I started out intending to argue the point, I think I may have to
> agree instead.
> 
> 
> Although there is still an argument that having the disabled items visible
> makes it clearer that the functionality exists...but isn't currently active.
> 
> mikel
> 
> PS: I think that this is one of the "problems" with having the Inside
> Macintosh volumes now available online.  Apple seemingly tweaks stuff
> without mentioning it to anyone...  Of course, I stupidly threw away all of
> my printed stuff earlier this year...so I can't confirm my vague
> recollection of how reality used to be. ;-)

I think it's always been this way.  Emailer did it correctly (never put
disabled items in the contextual menus).

Dan


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