On 11/17/00 4:22 PM, Allen Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm not certain I understand what you want entirely. Sounds like you want to
> get a folder set up so that the oldest to most recent messages appear at the
> top. Your problem is that when you open a folder, the window is not scrolled
> to the top, but reappears in whatever was its last position. Right? Several
> things come to mind:
>
> 1. Click the message list pane (or tab to it) and then use your Home key
> (or, on my iBook, Cmd-fn-Left Arrow, which should be the same on your
> PowerBook, no?).
>
> 2. Click the "Sent" column header once, or twice if you want to keep the
> same sort order. Resorting will cause the window to "lose" its scroll
> positioning and jump to the top.
Allen, I brought this up some time ago when I first got Entourage, much as
Judi stated below. The way Entourage handles returning to the window slider
position has changed since OE, and in my opinion, for the worse. Before, the
window position it returned to IF you are showing all messages would be to
the position of the last message read, this works well when your preview
pane view is set to show all messages however, in OE, if you preferred to
only show unread messages, as Judi and I do, the window slider would
reposition itself to show the oldest unread message, allowing the user to
then just spacebar down through the new messages. If for some reason you
accidentally selected the second oldest message and used the spacebar to go
through the list in time sent order, the spacebar would then return to the
unread message you missed at the top of the list. In Entourage, the window
slider position remains where it was when you last left the folder, again
fine if you have your view set to show all messages, but the difference is
if you are viewing Unread Only, now the slider will only show the five
unread messages nearest to the slider position, if you have many new
messages then you have to, as you said, manually move the slider back to the
top to find the oldest unread message. Pain in the patootie and a backwards
step from the way OE worked, which didn't penalize you for using Unread Only
for your standard view. Compounding this, if you accidentally do not select
the oldest Unread message, or more likely, forget to move the slider back to
the top of the window, then the Space Bar will *not* "wrap around" to find
these earlier messages and you have to manually find them. Again, a change
in behavior to the way OE works. Probably not a big deal to those who
organize and read their mail in a different manner, or never use Unread Only
for their views, but for those of us who've gotten used to and greatly enjoy
the benefits of the Unread Only view Entourage's behavior has taken a step
backwards.
Regards,
Jim Baskins
> On or near 11/17/00 1:58 PM, Judi Sohn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] observed:
>
>> Apologies if this has been addressed already...
>>
>> This is driving me nuts, and it wasn't a problem with Outlook Express.
>>
>> I subscribe to many mailing lists, taking full advantage of the wonderful
>> Mailing List Manager feature to sort the messages into separate folders.
>> Then I just click on whichever folders are bold and read the messages sorted
>> by the "sent" column from the oldest to the most recent, to best follow a
>> discussion (as opposed to threading, which I didn't like). I have my windows
>> set up in the default manner, with 5 messages showing in the list view,
>> reading messages in the preview pane.
>>
>> The problem is that when I click on a folder with unread messages, the
>> scroll bar is where the last message came in. Since typically the last
>> message downloaded and filed is the most recent, the scroll is at the bottom
>> and when I click on the top message to start my reading, in fact I am
>> clicking on the 5th message from the bottom with many more before it. Or I'm
>> clicking in the middle of the list. For each folder I have to manually drag
>> the scroll bar in list view up to the top of the list so I can begin reading
>> from the oldest message forward (the "home" key may work, but as I'm
>> typically reading from a PowerBook it's not an option)
>>
>> Are there any scripts out there that could help me? In Outlook Express when
>> I went to a folder with unread messages, the top message in list view was
>> the oldest message. Does anyone have any suggestions or something I'm
>> missing to get Entourage to act in this manner the way OE did?
>>
>> Thanks.
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