On 11/19/01 11:25 PM, "Harry (lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> on 11/19/01 8:03 PM, Christian M. M. Brady at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> That still does not make your using a pirated piece of software acceptable.
>> It is wrong morally, if not legally.
> 
> Could we please get off the improperly high moral high-horse here, please?

No. And this is hardly a high horse, more like a miniature pony.

> While it's nice to preach moral wishy-washy, you should also be mature
> enough to accept the reality of the world you live in - pirated software is
> all over the place.

I am mature enough to accept the reality of this world. I accept that crime
is part of it. Does that mean I ought to condone or engage in it myself? No.

I realize that this is not the same as murder or even shoplifting, no wait,
it IS the same as shop lifting! Hmmm, so I suppose that is ok now too? (and
so we could go ad naseum)

>There are three angles to pirated software:

None of which make it legal. You are simply trying to justify that which is
illegal. 

> 1 people that use such software during pre-release, or to 'try it', and have
> every intention to purchase it (and do so upon release)
> 
> 2 people that collect software, like others collect stamps.
> 
> 3 people that sell pirated software
> 
> 
> #1 benefits the software vendor, and the vendors know that.
> 
> #2 doesn't hurt any software vendor, and the vendors know that.
> 
> #3 *does* actively hurt the software industry, and should be persecuted.
> 
> 
> Go figure out what category a person belongs to, think long and hard if your
> comments and moral outrage are applicable, and then decide what to say.
> 
> Statements like "It is wrong morally, if not legally" are ludicrous and
> ridiculous, IMO.

Why? I was merely recognizing that there may be a legal loop hole that I am
unfamiliar with, but such a person has acquired the property without paying
for it and without receiving it as a gift. Hence, it is morally wrong.

Cb
cbrady @ tulane.edu
-- 
"No study of probabilities inside a given frame can ever
tell us how probable it is that the frame itself can be
violated."  C. S. Lewis


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