John: I'll say something similar to what I said to Diane. I have not attempted to make any case justifying the pirating of software. If you think otherwise, then you simply did not read the thread. Or you choose to argue against a straw man.
I do not believe it is appropriate to steal tangible or intangible property. Period. I is *possible* that the loan of this equipment violates an NDA or other agreement. It is also possible that what was done was not covered by an NDA, or that there was no NDA. So, like several others here, you are speculating--and choosing to speculate the worst--on no other basis than the fact that I asked an otherwise legitimate question out of curiosity. But please, do not lecture me on "being a man," unless you just like to see yourself pontificate in electrons. Greg ------------------- On 11/20/01 8:01 PM, John C. Welch was willing to say outloud: > On 11/20/2001 22:22, "Entourage:mac Talk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> If you feel that clothes (tangibles, and requiring individual production) >> are *exact* parallels to software (an intangible, and not requiring >> individual production for distribution), then you obviously *MUST* be living >> in a different world/dimension. >> >> Sorry, Diane, you ended up sliding into the wrong world... > > So wait, as long as it's NOT a tangible thing, then It's OKAY? Stealing > isn't stealing unless you can nhold the stolen item in your hand? > > Doctor, my head... > > It's really simple... > > If YOU, the person using the NDA'd software did not sign the NDA, or are not > covered by a site/company NDA etc., > > Then > > You are not legally, by the software license, allowed to use said software. > The person, or persons who are covered by the NDA, and are facilitating your > use of the NDA's software are breaking the NDA. > > Intent is not applicable, nor is your status as a good person. You are in > possession of a thing you have no permission to be in possession of. The > fact that you use the thing in a good fashion is immaterial. The fact that > you have fifty-three google copies on order, is immaterial. > > In *this* case, your use of that software is wrong, not right, pick the term > that suits you. > > And as someone who has to deal with the draconian crap that results from > morons breaking NDA, and dingalings on Hotline pushing pirated software, > gosh, I'm sorry, I no longer care about your intent. > > If you're going to pirate software, be a man and admit that you're doing it. > Don't hide behind good intentions. The end does not justify the means, and > in the end, the means are more important. > > john -- To unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To search the archives: <http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.boingo.com/>
