On 10/22/2004 17:39, "Entourage:mac Talk"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> Well, the first question has to be, what are you using Exchange for?
>> Depending on that, you have a rather wide range of choices.
> 
> Email, Calendar, Contacts, Tasks, and the ability to share these between
> users with a fairly robust rights management system.  And also the ability
> to have public areas, with the same rights mgmt.
> 
> I realize these can be done with separate applications, and it may come to
> that, but having them in one location was (is) great.
> 
> To my knowledge, Novell is the only other OSX app that puts them in one.  I
> dread the possibility of having to switch to that, however, I don't know
> whether that would be worse, or managing different several applications to
> almost accomplish this.

Okay, so there are two parts to this.

For the server, you have pretty simple needs. Any groupware server that will
support HTTP-DAV and LDAP will work with E'rage. Kerio, www.kerio.com is a
great example. Kerio has the advantage of being one of the few solutions
that will support E'rage that runs on Mac OS X and can integrate with Open
Directory.

If you go with Notes or GroupWise, you are using a Notes or GroupWise
server. Well, you can use Notes without one, but it sucks really awfully
bad. Really REALLY bad. I've yet to hear a single good thing about
GroupWise, so we'll assume it's the same.

Outside of that, it gets sticky. You're probably running on Linux, Windows,
or Solaris for the server. Oracle has a great server, but the calendar
client is really ugly. It works well, and has some features that
Exchange/Outlook *still* don't have, scales awesomely, but the client's ugly
as hell. Good Palm / PocketPC support.

Client wise, you're either using E'rage, Evolution, or patching the hell out
of Mail/iCal/AddressBook. iCal is a really piss-poor client. Good
standalone, but just not designed for corporate calendaring. However, I use
it with Paul's scripts, because other than the Oracle client, it's the ONLY
calendar client I've found on the Mac that can EMAIL me a REMINDER!!!

Yeah, that's a HUGE failing in E'rage. And a silly one.

If you want more info/help, lemme know, I've had to play this spec out game
before.

john

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