I continued the experiment. Adding the "Is not junk e-mail" criteria to the
rule did the trick. With both the "Account Is" and "Is not junk e-mail"
criteria set junk e-mail went to where the JMF sent it, list messages went
to where the MLM said and others went to where the rule sent them.

Russ

on 12/15/04 9:45 PM, Russell Carr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Rod, 
> I did an experiment and found that you are correct. Rules applied directly
> to an account (i.e.. Criteria is an account) will in fact move all incoming
> mail into the specified folder, even identified and marked Junk Mail.
>
Snip

> Or maybe just adding the "Is not junk e-mail" criteria to
> your existing account rules will be all you need.
>  
> 
> on 12/15/04 8:34 PM, Rod D. Martin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> 
>>> The question is, why does it work on the inbox but not on the folders (and
>>> since I realize the old emails are now stripped away, the deal is this: a
>>> rule shifts all email which comes to several particular email accounts into
>>> their own separate "inbox" folders), and how to fix that?
>>> 
>>> Rod Martin
>> 
>> I will admit that I didn't especially expect a response to this email, but
>> I'll also admit that it's disappointing I didn't receive one, not least
>> because it's clear JMF is not working in the manner stated by MS
>> representatives right here on this list this week.
>> 
>> I'll give you the scenario again.  I have multiple POP accounts coming into
>> Entourage 2004.  Several of them receive in excess of 100 real emails (as
>> opposed to junk) per day.  Because of this, and because of the distinct
>> nature of the accounts, I used a pair of rules to divert anything which goes
>> to several of these accounts to two special folders, and I use these as
>> separate "inboxes".
>> 
>> The problem is that the Junk Mail Filter does not work on those folders at
>> all.  Not "just a little", but at all.  And I can check these accounts from
>> the server through my web-based interface and count the number of spam
>> messages in those accounts and then count what shows up in Entourage to
>> confirm this (contrary to what Paul indicated above about the "Low" level of
>> protection), that in fact the JMF doesn't work on those folders AT ALL.
>> 
>> Just to try to follow counsel as well as possible, I *did* do as Paul
>> (somewhat derisively) suggested and raised the level of protection to
>> "High".  This did result (as I said it would, and as it has done in the
>> past) in my losing a lot more "real" emails to the junk folder.  It added no
>> protection to my main inbox (which was getting excellent coverage from the
>> "Low" setting already), and it also failed to add even the slightest extra
>> coverage to the added folders.  JMF does not work on them at all.
>> 
>> So once again, the question is why this is so and what I can do about it.
>> And if, as was suggested earlier, that maybe diverting these accounts to
>> their folders by using the Mailing List Manager instead would help, how can
>> I set that up where it will divert *everything* from the specified accounts
>> -- but nothing else!!! -- to the proper folders, since these are POP
>> accounts, not lists?
>> 
>> I'm frustrated, but I do appreciate everyone's help.
>> 
>> Rod Martin
>> 
>> 
> 


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