Larry,

On this point you are correct and I think we will all agree to that. However
the point that you are not considering is that she is not using a simple
command line she is using a mail client that is dependant on the OS it
resides on. Therefore it talks to the OS before it sends the e-mail.

I am sure just like you that if she had access to telnet into her mail
server and issued the command line commands that she could send e-mail if
she were running an old Apple Commodore. That is not the case. I can even
take some of the old command line mail clients and make this work, like in
FBSD. However when you use a graphic mail client it depends on the OS to
operate and that is where the fly gets in the ointment.

AL Grant
GA JMC E-Media
Asst. Engineer WKMS-FM
Rm FA845b
Fine Arts Bldg.
Murray State University
Murray, KY 42071
270-762-5361


On 9/20/05 9:37 PM, "Larry Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 9/20/05 8:33 PM, Bellwether at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> No. OS X is as different from OS 9 as cash and credit cards are different
>> from each other. OS X is not just a "new style" of OS 9 currency; it's a
>> *completely* different architecture. OS 9 is obsolete and no longer
>> supported by Apple; it's no longer legal tender.
> 
> We're clearly talking past each other but I'll try again. In the world of
> Internet protocols, what operating system you're running is, in a properly
> standards-compliant world, irrelevant. The applications involved do not care
> and should not even know what operating system is being used. In fact,
> neither POP3 nor SMTP have any defined means of a client to tell the server
> what operating system it is or even what specific mail client it is (yes,
> the mail client is frequently embedded in a header of a mail message but all
> the headers are just data (and are sent following the DATA command) in an
> SMTP transaction).
> 
> As someone who runs his own mail server and has spent time doing some
> debugging, I do know what I'm talking about here. The S in SMTP means Simple
> and it really is and it takes all of four commands to send a message: HELO,
> MAIL FROM:, RCPT TO:, and DATA. You can (and I have for debugging purposes)
> telnet to port 25 on a server and type those by hand along with their
> parameters and the data (the message with its headers) and it will work just
> fine.
> 
> -- Larry Stone
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    http://www.stonejongleux.com/
> 

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